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Hey!! first topic post in a serious forum discussion before...so excuse me if this is misplaced!

 

Anyway, what do y'all think of the concept of rare Pygmies? :? I've kinda noticed they don't exist; all Pygmies are either common or uncommon. Now that I think about it, there any exclusive dragons, or dragons that can breed within their own breeds, that are rare. Which is weird...so do you think they should exist?

 

I wanna hear your thoughts :0

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Well, I'm not 100% certain myself, but I think there's a suggestions and requests section where you put stuff like this.

 

Now, let me throw in my two cents....I totally think rare exclusives should exist. Now that you bring it up, I want to see some rare hybrids in the Pygmy group. Maybe they could make a couple of holiday pygmies too. I can imagine a how the grinch stole Christmas-themed one; that'd be adorable.

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I get the impression that the Suggestions/Requests section of the forum is really only for if you intend to work on it and make it happen yourself?

 

I would LOVE rare pygmies. And more holiday pygmies. Yes please.

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I just want more Pygmies! Regular releases, Holiday releases, rares... all of it would be awesome. Its a shame how little love the various can-only-breed-among-themselves groups get.

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I would love more Holiday Pygmies, these would still count as rares, but everyone would still be able to get them. Win-win scenario. I hope we get some soon!

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I would love more Holiday Pygmies, these would still count as rares, but everyone would still be able to get them. Win-win scenario. I hope we get some soon!

Hmm yeah, since I'm one of the few people who don't care about caveborns, I never really considered how new rares could cause a lot more frustration for people. I was just imagining myself fishing a messy one out of the AP and being happy, lol.

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ANY rares would be a GoN send at this point, i'm SICK of the two year rare drought, everything released is intended to be common or uncommon.

 

And I really think holiday subgroups are a bad idea, that pumpkin dragon is cute until you realize it can't breed with 90% of the dragons available, and no one really loves them that much because all the good concepts are full sized dragons, rightly so

 

This is why I think subgroups where an awful idea to begin with, two headeds could have just been able to breed with dragons for the same reasons a wyvern and a wyrm can breed, drakes shouldn't have been a thing in the first place, and most pygmies are around the same size as a mint or sweetling so they should and could have just been normal dragons.

 

Hmm yeah, since I'm one of the few people who don't care about caveborns, I never really considered how new rares could cause a lot more frustration for people. I was just imagining myself fishing a messy one out of the AP and being happy, lol.

Not everything SHOULD be easy to hunt, this is part of good gameplay,

Not everything should be handed to us as commons and uncommons, hunting shouldn't always be like a trip to the grocery store.

 

And there shouldn't be two year rare droughts when releases are monthly and normally composed of 2-7 dragons.

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Not everything SHOULD be easy to hunt, this is part of good gameplay

That's an interesting opinion, but I disagree with your conclusion. Not being "easy to hunt" does not need to mean "nearly impossible to acquire for most of the playerbase", which is what Golds and Silvers and some of those breeds that were "not meant to be rare" are.

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I disagree with the idea of a Holiday Pygmy/Drake to be honest tongue.gif

Why's that smile.gif?

 

I for one would love a holiday pygmy/ rare pygmy. Actually I just want more pygmy dragons to exist lol.

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And I really think holiday subgroups are a bad idea, that pumpkin dragon is cute until you realize it can't breed with 90% of the dragons available, and no one really loves them that much because all the good concepts are full sized dragons, rightly so

You shouldn't group everyone together like that. Plenty of people love Pumpkins, like me smile.gif I have a ridiculous number of them because they're the only Halloween dragon I catch. Just because you/other people don't like them or they're not crazy popular doesn't mean "no one" loves them.

 

The real problem with the sub-species is that they're neglected. If there was a better variety available so lineages could be more varied, they'd be more popular. Low variety = low interest, high variety = high interest. The more there is for you to choose from and fall in love with, the more likely someone is to be able to find ones they like. That's all there is to it.

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Why's that smile.gif?

 

I for one would love a holiday pygmy/ rare pygmy. Actually I just want more pygmy dragons to exist lol.

Well, it's good for you, not for everyone. For example, for people who build even gens pure breeds (not so many lol but here I am) a Holiday Pygmy/Drake would make impossible to use. A good thing would be a Halloween Pygmy/Drake because they are both male and female. I pair my Christmas and Valentine dragons together, they and Prize dragons being the only exception from my scroll's "rule" tongue.gif

 

But I'm okay with rare pygmies or drakes as normal releases.

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I would support this, in the name of developing the dragon subgroups. That is, getting more of them in general, or getting holidays for Drakes and Two-headed, since pygmies already have one.

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I think rare pygmies would be awesome. I know it's not for everyone, but personally, rare hunting is very fun for me. Hence, I would welcome the introduction of any new rares quite readily.

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I would definitely like to at least one rare pygmy, drake and/or two-headed. If I could sprite, I even have a concept that could be cool for a valentine's drake (but I'm not good enough, and you can't post holiday ideas openly on the dragon requests). I think part of the problem is that because they get lost among the 'normal' dragons that they become annoying to breed. I certainly have had that problem - 'who are potential suitors for this pygmy? Where did all my pygmies go?!' and that sort of thing.

 

... Since it's my problem and definitely off-topic here, I'm going to try suggesting a sort-by-breeding-type in the suggestions and requests zone.

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That's an interesting opinion, but I disagree with your conclusion. Not being "easy to hunt" does not need to mean "nearly impossible to acquire for most of the playerbase", which is what Golds and Silvers and some of those breeds that were "not meant to be rare" are.

Well, actually, in my opinion, having some eggs that are nearly impossible to get CB makes them even more rewarding when you manage to get them.

 

But then again, you're talking to a person that got really excited when they nabbed a CB pillow dragon, so, ya.

 

Back on topic; I was thinking a lot about what Pluviophillia said and although I don't really sypathize with their holiday dragon breeding problems, I'm starting to like the idea of getting a Halloween Drake/pygmie other than the pumpkin dragon, because I'm not that fond of pumpkin dragons myself.

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I would love more Holiday Pygmies, these would still count as rares, but everyone would still be able to get them. Win-win scenario. I hope we get some soon!

Yeah, so far halloween's been the only holiday to ever get a restricted breeding type iirc. It was super frustrating at the time because only the original pygmy was out. Also since the egg was regular sized I was really surprised when the dragon turned out only breedable with pygmies. Now that we have more breeds I think it would be cool to have an xmas/valentines holiday dragon be one of those also. Not just pygmies I think that drakes and 2 heads as well should get at least one holiday for them.

Plus how cute would a little festive or lovey dovey tiny dragon be biggrin.gif

 

OP/others if you were legit interested in designing one of these I'd love to brainstorm with you.

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Absolutely! It's quite sad how little attention the dragons that can only breed with their type get.. it would be awesome to add some rare pygmies! An addition of Holiday Pygmies would also be interesting...

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Yeah, so far halloween's been the only holiday to ever get a restricted breeding type iirc. It was super frustrating at the time because only the original pygmy was out. Also since the egg was regular sized I was really surprised when the dragon turned out only breedable with pygmies. Now that we have more breeds I think it would be cool to have an xmas/valentines holiday dragon be one of those also. Not just pygmies I think that drakes and 2 heads as well should get at least one holiday for them.

Plus how cute would a little festive or lovey dovey tiny dragon be biggrin.gif

 

OP/others if you were legit interested in designing one of these I'd love to brainstorm with you.

If we start designing pygmies I'd definitely want to help too! I can't sprite to save my life but I'd like to think of myself as a decent brainstormer and general drawer.

 

I think the problem people are having with holiday restricted types is the fact that they'd be hard to breed because a) they're rare and cool.gif they're restricted breeds. However, if there was some more attention paid to them so we got more holiday pygmies/drakes/two-heads, then maybe it wouldn't be that bad.

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That's an interesting opinion, but I disagree with your conclusion. Not being "easy to hunt" does not need to mean "nearly impossible to acquire for most of the playerbase", which is what Golds and Silvers and some of those breeds that were "not meant to be rare" are.

I never said that golds and silvers where in a good situation, it's not all black and white.

 

Golds and silvers are too rare (partially) because they have no other rares on their level, when there were like 9 species of dragons, they were probably alright, but now with like 90 species of dragon, the vast majority of them uncommon, no wonder they never spawn, the odds just keep getting even more stacked against them as the months go on.

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I think a valentines pygmy would be a lovely idea, but before it happened I would want more common/uncommon pygmies to pair it with. The amount of lineages is very limited at the moment sadly.

 

As for golds and silvers, I actually think silvers are an okay level of rarity. With some dedication one can definitely catch them. Golds though, I think are too rare. I feel they should be similar to silvers, maybe a bit rarer. In all my time hunting I have caught about 6 silvers and no golds.

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I'd be okay with more rare pygmies if there was more variety available. Right now I think we have too few pygmy breeds to really benefit from a rare. Also they're such small sprites, it's hard to appreciate the detail of some of them. If they were all magelight size that would be great, though.

 

 

I also like the pygmy dinos in the completed list.

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