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So I know we've had this discussion before, although it was a while ago, and I'm not sure it ever had its own thread.

 

There are some instances in the cave where useful information isn't as accessible to newbies as it is to experienced users (*cough* copy'pasta scroll link *cough*), and one of those instances is the egg limits page, which is easily accessed by clicking on our trophy.

 

Now, part of this could be to encourage new users to click around the help section to read all this useful information. But part of it could be that there's just no place for a new user to click to easily be brought to that page. So! Let's do just a blank trophy base. it can use the bronze cover plate but with no number on it. Clicking on that could lead a user with less than 50 non-growing dragons to the egg limits page without having to click around several other pages first.

 

Other ideas (thanks Sapphira_Majoram and Amaterasu-sama!):

  • Trophy base with a small egg on it
  • Trophy base with a pygmy on it
  • A small book with a "help" or "egg limits" pop up when you hover over it
The base could be blank or have a 0 on it or possibly an H for Help.

 

Other thoughts?

 

Courtesy of Shokomon: user posted image

 

Color change by Cecona: user posted image

Thanks, Shokomon!

 

So far, the egg trophy is preferred by users.

Edited by SockPuppet Strangler

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I like the concept of this. For experienced users, the limits page is mostly a reference to easily see how many eggs/hatchlings are on your scroll. But for a newbie, it's important information for even knowing how many they can have on their scroll.

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I like the concept on many sites that newbie members are treated as fledglings or babies. laugh.gif The icon usually shows a toddler or a bar that's empty which will full over time etc etc. I am not sure where we could go with this, but basically an icon that shows the fledgling idea in some way?

 

Another one would be simply use an open book icon that says "Help" or "Egg limits" or something helpful and the icon is replaced with bronze trophy once the person is eligible. I see open book as a sign for help/tutorial in many games so that might be generic enough. Maybe a question mark even, but that seems more suitable for FAQ.

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I have a brilliant idea for the newbies (or at least it seems such at 7 am in the morning).

 

What if you do a trophy for the utter newbies, of a trophy base with an egg on top of it? The "number" on the plaque might be 0 because that's the amount of dragons you need to get it, because it's the newbie trophy. Like, congrats you made a scroll! smile.gif

 

The reason the egg is on it and it's not simply a trophy base alone, is because you always start with an egg right? It's also of the egg limits along with the hatchling limits. The bronze, silver, and gold trophies are all full grown dragons. When you get the bronze one, it's like the egg "hatched" into a dragon. biggrin.gif Reminiscent of the egg hatching and dragon raising process. :3

 

I'm just not sure about the color of the trophy since the most commonly known ranking goes from bronze, silver, gold, and then platinum. (We really should have a platinum trophy for 1000 dragons and perhaps a titanium or diamond one for 5000 dragons.) Looking it up, we could either do an iron, tin, or copper trophy for the basic newbies. Perhaps even green (which would stand out a lot more visually from the rest of the line up) for the English phrase of "green" for being "new":

 

2. lacking in adult experience or maturity; a new pitcher who's pretty green, even by rookie standards

 

... Now that I think of it... a green trophy with a 0 for a number on the plaque and an egg on the trophy stand would be a great basic, starter trophy for anyone just starting out. biggrin.gif

 

What do y'all think? :3

Edited by Sapphira_Majoram

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I like the idea of egg trophy, it's very cute. :3 Maybe a trophy with a small egg like chickens or pygmies.

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That's what I was thinking. smile.gif A small little egg, the size of a pygmy or chicken egg, ontop of a trophy base, bearing the number 0 on the plaque. Also, done in greens because of the "greenie" or "Newbie" association, and because it stands out a LOT more in the lineup than copper (compared to bronze), tin or iron (compared to silver) ... also it's not a precious metal like the bronze, silver, gold lineup is which also works for a newbie just starting out. smile.gif

 

And from an artistic standpoint, the shape of the egg would almost mirror the shape of the 0, making it a nice pleasing-to-the-eye similarity. biggrin.gif

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What if you do a trophy for the utter newbies, of a trophy base with an egg on top of it? The "number" on the plaque might be 0 because that's the amount of dragons you need to get it, because it's the newbie trophy. Like, congrats you made a scroll! smile.gif

Oh! I like that very much. It's adorable.

 

I like the concept on many sites that newbie members are treated as fledglings or babies. xd.png The icon usually shows a toddler or a bar that's empty which will full over time etc etc. I am not sure where we could go with this, but basically an icon that shows the fledgling idea in some way?

 

Another one would be simply use an open book icon that says "Help" or "Egg limits" or something helpful and the icon is replaced with bronze trophy once the person is eligible. I see open book as a sign for help/tutorial in many games so that might be generic enough. Maybe a question mark even, but that seems more suitable for FAQ.

 

There is a new user slideshow that goes over how to grab eggs and how to raise them. I can be exited out of our it disappears once they've successfully raised 10 dragons. It might even go over limits. But that's a temporary thing and, while it could lead them to the limits page, I don't think it stands in place for something that leads to the limits page. ;3

 

Plus, if it stays there until they get their trophy, that seems a little overkill, and I know users are going to ask to get rid of it. =x

 

Sorry, it's very early in the morning, so I'm kinda ramble-y. A little help icon in place of the trophy really isn't a bad idea, but it does need to be something small - a book that legibly reads Egg Limits seems a bit big. Plus, the egg trophy idea is very cute. =p

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This sounds really helpful. I'm sure it would be frustrating as a newbie to not have easy access to the limits page, if you even know it exists. The egg trophy idea sounds adorable!

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Oh! I like that very much. It's adorable.

 

I like the concept on many sites that newbie members are treated as fledglings or babies. xd.png The icon usually shows a toddler or a bar that's empty which will full over time etc etc. I am not sure where we could go with this, but basically an icon that shows the fledgling idea in some way?

 

Another one would be simply use an open book icon that says "Help" or "Egg limits" or something helpful and the icon is replaced with bronze trophy once the person is eligible. I see open book as a sign for help/tutorial in many games so that might be generic enough. Maybe a question mark even, but that seems more suitable for FAQ.

 

There is a new user slideshow that goes over how to grab eggs and how to raise them. I can be exited out of our it disappears once they've successfully raised 10 dragons. It might even go over limits. But that's a temporary thing and, while it could lead them to the limits page, I don't think it stands in place for something that leads to the limits page. ;3

 

Plus, if it stays there until they get their trophy, that seems a little overkill, and I know users are going to ask to get rid of it. =x

 

Sorry, it's very early in the morning, so I'm kinda ramble-y. A little help icon in place of the trophy really isn't a bad idea, but it does need to be something small - a book that legibly reads Egg Limits seems a bit big. Plus, the egg trophy idea is very cute. =p

I am more for the little egg trophy idea myself now that it's mentioned because it goes well with my babies' image. tongue.gif But to elaborate on the point you raised, I meant an itty bitty small book pixel art which shows description as "limits" only when you hover cursor over it. Like you know sometimes if you place cursor over a link and if it has a description which shows up but immediately disappears if you remove cursor from there? There shouldn't be any text on the book and book should be small size as all other trophies and badges.

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I really like this idea... especially the egg trophy- that would be super cute, but I also think we should add a platinum trophy after the gold. Say 1000 dragons to get it, can hold up to 10 eggs with a max of 30 hatchies/eggs or something.

Edited by Cecona

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I can support this!

 

I think I like the stand with the tiny pygmy idea.

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I really, really like this idea. The trophy is such a wonderful, easy way to get to the limits page (although for awhile I didn't know it led there!), and I think it would be very beneficial for new members to have it as well. I would think that new members would probably need it *more*, really. I like the idea of a tiny egg on top.

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*because my brain said you gotta*

 

Maybe the statues (if you want statues) could look something like these:

user posted image

 

- Though I probably should have based the colors on a less rare material and not jade, but jade is nice.

- Egg, Book, and Pygmy versions, based on different people's suggestions.

- The "H" stands for help. I probably should have made one blank and one with a Zero...but I don't wanna. Maybe I do it later.

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The egg is perfect... and I'm kind of thinking it could be a "Rusted Copper"/"Copper Patina" trophy since copper turns green when exposed to the elements.

Edited by Cecona

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I said I was lazy, but I made blank, L (limit), and 0 trophy stand options, just to see what they look like.

 

Here you go! And you are welcome!

 

user posted image

 

@Cecona: If anyone wants to mess around with my little trophies and make the Copper Rust colored, they can. Right now I gotta stop stalling on work. xd.png

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I said I was lazy, but I made blank, L (limit), and 0 trophy stand options, just to see what they look like.

 

Here you go! And you are welcome!

 

user posted image

 

@Cecona: If anyone wants to mess around with my little trophies and make the Copper Rust colored, they can. Right now I gotta stop stalling on work. xd.png

The rusted copper trophy idea is a great one. xd.png Combine the copper being a lower stance than the bronze, with the green trophy idea, into one! <3

 

The little egg is PERFECT. Like, just utterly perfect for a newbie trophy. xd.png I love the little 0 too but it could be a bit clearer it's a 0? I thought it said 4 or H at first. xd.png

 

The book isn't very clear it's a book to my eyes, and the pygmy dragon does kinda work, but the egg is the adorable one that really gets my heart. Damn it ALMOST makes me wanna get a new scroll myself just so I can have that cute trophy on the top of my scroll until I get 50 dragons, and if you know how much I dislike green to have almost no green dragons on my scroll, you'd understand the depth of how cute I think that trophy is. xd.png

 

I just so love the thought of a newbie getting that kinda trophy as a "congrats, you made a scroll! biggrin.gif" sorta gift. xd.png

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I'm glad you like the rusted copper idea, I know that copper can be of value and bronze is an alloy that contains copper so it makes sense it would be worth more than just normal copper; even more so if the copper is rusted. We could leave the trophy the color it is or look for a more green copper shade. Statue of liberty would be the perfect thing to create a palette from.

 

I did a thing

user posted image

Edited by Cecona

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I'm glad you like the rusted copper idea, I know that copper can be of value and bronze is an alloy that contains copper so it makes sense it would be worth more than just normal copper; even more so if the copper is rusted. We could leave the trophy the color it is or look for a more green copper shade. Statue of liberty would be the perfect thing to create a palette from.

 

I did a thing

user posted image

This is adorable and cute and perfect and I love it!!! <3 Somehow the little lettering is a bit easier to see for me in this color. :3

 

The rusted copper is bloody perfect idea, and it being below bronze in the rankings makes a lot of sense for the reasons you mentioned. smile.gif Thank you!

 

Full support of the egg trophy of what you did with a little 0 on its plaque being the newbie trophy. biggrin.gif

 

Edit: When I supersize the image to see it closer I can understand what's going on much better.

 

I had sincerely thought the wings of the pygmy was the head instead because it was bigger and thicker and curved into the white background. No, the head is actually down near the base itself. That I didn't know!

 

The book likewise makes more sense when I supersize it but in small view it looked like some sort of tulip bulb being split open or something. (Meaning no insult! Just my brain not quite putting the pieces together and having a hard time seeing the difference between the bottom edge of the book and the base, which created an optical illusion that made the book more curved and tulip bulb like as a result.)

 

The H letter is still the easiest to make out because the 0 is more like an o in being very small and the center space of the 0 being harder to see in small view. I have a hard time detecting the L in small view as well, due to part of it getting lost in the shading (same problem with the 0.)

 

For the H, in small view I would either assume the letter was an H, or was an open-topped 4 number. In fact, the open-topped 4 number was my first guess, followed by an H if I squinted right. I think the left bottom "leg" of the H just disappeared in the shading when seen in small view.

 

And strangely the shading of the blank plaque makes me think there is something faint inscribed on it that I can't see, which is confusing to me. I think it's the vertical lines there. But that's just me!

 

So with all that taken into account and considering how it looks RIGHT NOW... I would go with the egg trophy and the H plaque because it looks the most clear as to what it is, what the letter/number is supposed to be, and the most visually interesting and pleasing to the eye.

 

I hope this feedback will help other people as we work to improve the lineup and options that we have. biggrin.gif

 

Edited by Sapphira_Majoram

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Thank you so much biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif I could make the letters a little darker if that will help- super easy

 

Like this

user posted image

 

I agree that the egg trophy looks the best, though I could go with any of the three options with a letter or number.

 

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user posted image

Edited by Cecona

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Thank you so much biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif I could make the letters a little darker if that will help- super easy

 

Like this

user posted image

 

I agree that the egg trophy looks the best, though I could go with any of the three options with a letter or number.

 

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user posted image

Comparison: user posted image --> user posted image

 

Oh yeah, the lettering is much better to see on this.

 

And good job with the colors.

 

On a side note, maybe I should make the stand a pixel bigger in height. That will give it just a little more space for the letters.

 

 

...LOL xd.png

 

Edit: Bigger stand?

user posted image --> user posted image

- Also, has a shading poke.

Edited by Shokomon

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I really love the egg one. It's perfect as a "newbie" trophy.

YES. We need it. Just like it is smile.gif (Green for - well, you know, "you're still a bit green" laugh.gif)

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Let me just bring these over for a size comparison:

 

Original Trophies: user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

 

Comparison: user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

(Egg only because people like the egg)

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