Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Turpentine, What have you tried breeding them with? Updates: http://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showt...dpost&p=6209925 Edited April 30, 2012 by _Z_ Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Add 2 more Turpentine x Golden Wyvern refusals to the list! That brings us up to what, 12 or 14 refusals and 0 successes? Cheers! C4. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 I have 4 refusals, 1 no interest and 1 egg. Refusals were: turpentine x white, turpentine x ember, turpentine x black, turpentine x winter magi. No interest was: turpentine x shadow walker Egg was: turpentine x thunder Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) I have tried to breed 4 Turps so far: Turp x GW = refusal Turp x Neo = 1 refusal and 1 success Turp x Flamingo = refusal Edited April 30, 2012 by drabrugon Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 I've gotten refusals with a Golden Wyvern, a Heartseeker, and both my Winter Magi so far, but I also got three successes with my CB gold, one of my CB silvers, and a Shadow Walker. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) (updating =) ) Refusals: No Intrest: No Egg: Successful: Edited May 1, 2012 by froggyluv28 Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Compilation Data source: All posts in this thread up to this post. albino: 4 total; 50% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (1 unspecified, 1 turp)) balloon: 4 total; 25% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (2 turp), 1 no interest) black: 54 total; 35% refusal refusals: 19 | successes: 35 (28 eggs (23 turp, 3 black, 2 unspecified), 2 no egg, 5 no interest) bluna / two-finned bluna: 1 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 no interest) bbw / bright-breasted wyvern: 11 total; 18% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 9 (6 eggs (6 turp), 2 no interest, 1 no egg) canopy: 4 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 canopy)) copper (total): 2 total: 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 eggs (1 turp), 1 no egg) copper (verdigris): 2 total: 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 eggs (1 turp), 1 no egg) daydream: 4 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 daydream)) deepsea: 3 total; 33% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (1 turp, 1 unspecified)) dorsal (total): 8 total; 25% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 dorsal), 1 no egg, 1 no interest) dorsal (purple): 4 total; 25% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 dorsal)) dorsal (red): 4 total; 25% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no egg, 1 no interest) electric: 23 total; 13% refusal refusals: 3 | successes: 20 (16 eggs (12 turp, 2 unspecified, 2 electric), 1 no egg, 3 no interest) ember: 6 total; 33% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 ember)) flamingo: 8 total; 25% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 6 (5 eggs (4 turp, 1 flamingo), 1 no egg) frill: 5 total; 40% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 3 (2 no interest, 1 egg (1 turp)) gold (metallic): 48 total; 15% refusal refusals: 7 | successes: 41 (33 eggs (29 turp, 4 unspecified), 4 no interest, 4 no egg) gold wyvern: 165 total; 32% refusal refusals: 52 | successes: 113 (85 eggs (76 turp, 6 gold wyvern, 3 unspecified), 20 no interest, 8 no egg) green / earth / pebble: 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp)) greenwing / spotted greenwing: 7 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 7 (5 eggs (2 unspecified, 2 turp, 1 greenwing), 2 no interest) guardian: 31 total; 65% refusal refusals: 20 | successes: 11 (5 eggs (4 guardian, 1 turp), 5 no interest, 1 no egg) harvest: 23 total; 26% refusal refusals: 6 | successes: 17 (16 eggs (9 turp, 5 harvest, 2 unspecified), 1 no interest) heartseeker / valentine 2012: 19 total; 37% refusal refusals: 7 | successes: 12 (9 eggs (9 turp), 2 no interest, 1 no egg) hellfire: 10 total; 40% refusal refusals: 4 | successes: 6 (6 eggs (5 turp, 1 unspecified)) holly / christmas 2007: 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 no egg, 1 no interest) horse: 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no egg) ice: 1 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 unspecified)) lumina: 19 total; 11% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 17 (14 eggs (11 lumina, 3 turp), 2 no interest, 1 no egg) magi / orange: 14 total; 43% refusal refusals: 6 | successes: 8 (7 eggs (5 turp, 1 unspecified, 1 magi), 1 no interest) magma: 9 total; 22% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 7 (7 eggs (7 turp)) marrow / halloween 2010: 28 total; 21% refusal refusals: 6 | successes: 22 (17 eggs (17 turp), 4 no egg, 1 no interest) mint / light green: 1 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) moonstone: 60 total; 82% refusal refusals: 49 | successes: 11 (11 eggs (7 turp, 4 moonstone)) Note: Moonstones had zero reported successes before this post (Jun 10 2012), at which point they had accrued 46 refusals. nebula (total): 25 total; 24% refusal refusals: 6 | successes: 19 (13 eggs (11 turp, 1 nebula, 1 unspecified), 2 no egg, 4 no interest) nebula (unspecified): 10 total; 20% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 8 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 unspecified), 2 no egg, 2 no interest) nebula ("non-alt"): 3 total; 67% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) nebula (purple): 2 total; 50% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) nebula (blue): 1 total; 100% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 0 nebula ("alt"): 12 total; 17% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 10 (8 eggs (7 turp, 1 nebula), 2 no interest) nebula (red/orange): 5 total; 20% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 4 (2 eggs (1 turp, 1 nebula), 2 no interest) nebula (green): 5 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (5 turp)) nebula (unspecified "alt"): 2 total; 50% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) neotropical: 9 total; 33% refusal refusals: 3 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (2 turp, 1 neotropical, 1 unspecified), 2 no interest) nocturne / limestone: 4 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 unspecified)) pillow: 6 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (2 turp, 2 unspecified), 2 no interest) pink / pale pink: 1 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) purple: 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no interest) red: 7 total; 29% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (3 red, 2 turp)) ribbon dancer / christmas 2010: 5 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (5 turp)) ridgewing (total): 386 total; 94% refusal (see 'Note') refusals: 364 | successes: 22 (18 eggs (8 ridgewings, 9 turp, 1 unspecified), 3 no interest, 1 no egg) Note: Ridgewings (total) had zero reported successes before this post (Jun 10 2012), at which point they had accrued 356 refusals. ridgewing (unspecified): 253 total; 98% refusal refusals: 247 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 ridgewing), 1 no interest, 1 no egg) Note: Up until Jun 10 2012, this section accrued 242 refusals. ridgewing (tan): 53 total; 94% refusal refusals: 50 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (1 ridgewing, 1 unspecified), 1 no interest) Note: Up until Jun 10 2012, this section accrued 47 refusals. ridgewing (purple): 80 total; 84% refusal refusals: 67 | successes: 13 (12 eggs (6 turp, 6 ridgewing), 1 no interest) Note: Up until Jun 10 2012, this section accrued 67 refusals. royal blue: 19 total; 16% refusal refusals: 3 | successes: 16 (9 eggs (9 turp), 4 no interest, 3 no egg) rosebud / valentine 2011: 9 total; 11% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 8 (4 eggs (4 turp), 3 no egg, 1 no interest) seasonal (total): 19 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 12+7 (15 eggs (12 turp, 2 seasonal, 1 unspecified), 4 no interest) seasonal (unspecified): 7 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 7 (7 egg (5 turp, 2 seasonal)) seasonal (autumn): 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no interest) seasonal (spring): 5 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 unspecified), 1 no interest) seasonal (summer): 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no interest) seasonal (winter): 3 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (2 turp), 1 no interest) shadow walker / halloween 2011: 18 total; 22% refusal refusals: 4 | successes: 14 (10 eggs (8 turp, 2 unspecified), 4 no interest) shallow water: 6 total; 33% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 4 (3 eggs (2 shallow water, 1 turp), 1 no interest) silver (metallic): 22 total; 18% refusal refusals: 4 | successes: 18 (16 eggs (10 turp, 3 unspecified, 3 silver), 2 no interest) skywing: 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp)) snow angel / christmas 2009: 5 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (4 eggs (4 turp), 1 no egg) spitfire: 25 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 25 (20 eggs (16 turp, 4 spitfire), 4 no interest, 1 no egg) stone: 6 total; 17% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (4 turp, 1 stone)) storm / grey / gray: 6 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 storm), 2 no interest) stripe (total): 31 total; 23% refusal refusals: 7 | successes: 24 (20 eggs (13 turp, 4 unspecified, 3 black stripe), 4 no interest) stripe (unspecified): 16 total; 25% refusal refusals: 4 | successes: 12 (10 eggs (4 turp, 4 unspecified, 2 black stripe), 2 no interest) stripe (white): 11 total; 18% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 9 (7 eggs (7 turp), 2 no interest) stripe (black): 2 total; 50% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) stripe (red): 3 total; 33% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 egg (1 stripe, 1 turp)) stripe (green): 1 total; 100% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 0 sunrise: 2 total; 50% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) sunset: 3 total; 33% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp)) sunsong: 6 total; 50% refusal refusals: 3 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 sunsong)) sunstone: 5 total; 40% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (2 turp), 1 no interest) swallowtail: 5 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (2 turp, 2 swallowtail, 1 unspecified)) sweetling / valentine 2010: 7 total; 29% refusal refusals: 2 | successes: 5 (3 eggs (3 turp), 2 no egg) tangar (gold-horned tangar): 9 total; 11% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 8 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 tangar), 3 no interest, 1 no egg) terrae: 6 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 6 (6 eggs (4 turp, 1 terrae, 1 unspecified)) thunder: 28 total; 21% refusal refusals: 6 | successes: 22 (17 eggs (14 turp, 2 unspecified, 1 thunder), 4 no interest, 1 no egg(?)) tinsel / prize (total): 35 total; 91% refusal refusals: 32 | successes: 3 (3 egg (2 turp, 1 tinsel)) tinsel / prize (gold): 19 total; 58% refusal refusals: 11 | successes: 8 (6 egg (4 turp, 2 tinsel), 1 no interest, 1 no egg) tinsel / prize (silver): 12 total; 83% refusal refusals: 10 | successes: 2 (2 egg (2 turp)) tinsel / prize (bronze): 12 total; 92% refusal refusals: 11 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) turpentine: 98 total; 19% refusal refusals: 19 | successes: 79 (72 eggs, 5 no interest, 2 no egg) ultraviolet: 3 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (3 ultraviolet)) valentine / valentine 2009: 3 total; 33% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp)) vine: 5 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 vine), 1 no egg, 1 no interest) water: 2 total; 50% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp)) waterhorse: 1 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 no interest) water walker: 1 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 unspecified)) waverunner: 4 total; 25% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 waverunner)) whiptail: 3 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 whiptail, 1 turp)) white: 3 total; 33% refusal refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (1 no egg, 1 no interest) winter magi / christmas 2011: 13 (+1(?)) total; 38-42% refusal refusals: 5 (+1(?)) | successes: 8 (8 eggs (8 turp)) yulebuck / christmas 2008: 2 total; 0% refusal refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp)) heads-up: info: a) 'Unspecified' egg mentions are probably turpentine eggs. They're from when people say 'got an egg' without specifying a lineage link (that was still working @ 03JUN2012) or species. Similarly, species with '(unspecified)' mean that no further information about them was mentioned - e.g. saying 'ridgewing' is unclear whether tan or purple ridgewings were used. c) I group 'no interest' and 'no egg' to success since such feedback means the mentioned pair will never refuse each other. d) I'd like to shy away from interpretations, but: It's reasonably safe to say any sample size under 20 attempts probably holds no informational value. stats may also be inaccurate because: a) some people only post their positive results and don't specify their negative results; additionally, I recommend generally assuming the ratio of successes in this thread is slightly higher than it truly is in the wild, as people are more likely to report successes here not everyone who plays the game understands the difference between 'no egg', 'no interest' and 'refusal'. c) I find it impossible to distinguish, within specific reassurances from people that pairings work ('i tried 2 turp x gold and got one turp'), between pairs that were already reported in a different post prior and a new report; so they've been counted as a new report throughout. d) reports without exact amounts have not been considered (e.g. "i've had successes with..." or "tried all of mine, all refusals") e) 1 no interest and 1 no egg may occasionally be a double-counted 'no interest'; some people use the term 'no interest, no egg' to refer to this state, and it was not always discernable if they were referring to a single breed set or two separate ones. f) 'successful' reports have been taken to mean 'gotten an egg' g) I count manually; I'm only human re: specific posts: a) majors reported 'And 26 no interests' in context of a successful turp+nocturne breeding, I was unsure whether that was literal (and if so, specific to nocturnes), so I have not included it I took "amber" to mean "gold wyvern" c) I took "sw" to mean "shadow walker" [--old post--] From what I've seen so far from people posting about their breeding successes (mainly in the news thread), I'm hazarding the guess that rares are less likely or normally likely to refuse turpentines. I wonder if that's to reduce frustration trying to pair them with rares? Or if it just means the sample I've seen is slanted for some reason... (like the very likely 'too early to tell' reason, cough). Exciting! Can't wait for mine to grow up so I can contribute some data. Edited March 2, 2015 by pinkgothic Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) good to know their not gonna be like the Splits then. for an updated list of Breeding statistics please click the below link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...UtQllNcXc#gid=0 Edited May 1, 2012 by Red2111 Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Just tried 4 Turpentine x GW pairings. All refused. Methinks this pairing isn't actually possible looking at everyone's results. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) bred turpentine X turpentine: success (turp egg.) turpentine X White stripe : success (turp egg) turpentine X Black : no egg turpentine X Gold : no egg Update: turpentine X GW: refusal turpentine X GW: refusal Edited April 30, 2012 by _Z_ Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 bred turpentine X turpentine: success turpentine X turpentine: success Re-posted my results in this thread for ease of finding. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 I'm thinking besides the eggs i'll be TRYING to distribute to Breeding, gifting I'm going to try all of mine with various CB GW << just to see if I can break the trend! Probably going to be a futile adventure though.... Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Turpentine x Harvest x 2: 1 Turp egg, 1 Harvest egg Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) updated to here edit - for better stats, can people who have a successful clutch list what egg type they got please unless ya'll think that stat isn't necessary 2x edit - add two more refusals to the GW list. Edited April 30, 2012 by Red2111 Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Gold x turp - no egg Marrow x turp - turpentine egg Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Turp x Turp = Turp egg. I'm glad to see it's possible to breed them to something besides other Turpentines. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Turpentine x GW = Refusal Figured I'd give it a go and see. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Turp x Black Marrow = Egg Turp x Gold = Egg 3 Turps x 3 GWs = Refusal Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 I bred my only adult (female) with a marrow and got a nice turpie egg Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Got two turp eggs from electric breedings. 1 successful Turp XTurp breeding. And a GW X turp along with an electric X turp refusal Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Female Turp x male gwyvern x 2 refusals to add to the list. Share this post Link to post
Posted April 30, 2012 Turp x Turp = refusal. Will try him with my other female next week. Share this post Link to post
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