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Lol, TJ's hair . I had a dream I met TJ 2 days ago and he looked a bit like Tim Burton with slightly more sensible hair .

Hey, someone deleted their post so now it looks like I double-posted....

This post has been edited by Ashywolf on Apr 25 2012, 08:02 PM

Okay; yes, that is fine. I just wanted to make sure. :3

Love the mysterious painting. x3

And don't worry about looking like you're double posting. As long as users don't abuse the function, I really don't care about users doing it on purpose.

So do we have a goal on how many sprites we are composing, or are we just spriting for eternity?

And wow there is a lot of closed topics at the moment :/ /offtopic

This post has been edited by Ashywolf on Apr 28 2012, 11:05 AM

I think that people still haven't decided how to implement this... and if they did it's been lost within the topic ><

Actually since I'm just being bored out of my mind at home... (darn you weekend be more exiting!) I'll go back and skim through the topic ^^ and bring back ideas! and I'll also construct a large list of sprite ideas for the OP!!!

will edit later ~~

I was planning on making a dragon that had a BSA that when clicked would have a change of collecting objects.

The BSA was like this:

-Had a highish (<50%) chance of succeeding.

-Items gained depended on the time of day and year.
-Duplicate items could be obtained, but they can only show under the badge once.

I might actually ressurect that thread actually. Kind of forgot about it.

Actually, I've been stalking for this thread for a little bit and I wanted to know, what IS the progress for this thread? I mean I really don't have time to read through 31 pages to find out how far this thread has developed, so could anyone post up a general description on the current ideas for the thread, like how it works concerning dragons, biomes, etc? Anyone been stalking for that long?

I think that's the point; no one has figured out how it will work.

Half of the thread is about dragon descriptions (Bad TJ going offtopic, lol).

I actually propose we do one of two things:

1. Make a shiny new thread.
2. Ask a mod to cut out the irrelevant half of the thread and put it into a new thread (on descriptions).

This post has been edited by Ashywolf on Apr 28 2012, 07:47 PM

Maybe we could make one topic for hoarding sprites and descriptions only and another topic for actually fleshing out the idea... But we'd have to ask the owner of this thread first... if s/he are still around...

>< I think some of this should be put of OP? (primaily the list of sprite ideas up even that maybe too big)... anyways... Srry if lists are confusing ><srry... there is so much I decided not to format it prettily right now...

SPRITE IDEA LIST:
halloween:
pumpkins (different sizes),scare crows,white sheets with holes,masks,costumes,gravestones (different sizes)
Xmas:
candy canes (different sizes),trees (different sizes),ornaments (different sizes),elf statues (different sizes),santa clothes,snow
valentine:
anything heart shaped basicly (different sizes),cards, balloons, cakes, chocolates, cofetti...
st. patricks day (for the future):
green stuff,3 leaf clover (common),4 leaf clover (uncommon),7 leaf clover (rare)
irish stuff
easter (for the future):
colored chicken eggs (not dragons or regular chickens to hatch from),chocolate bunnies,choclate eggs
Rocks : Boulder, rough pebble, beach pebble, gems- If you want to narrow that down, Quarts, Amethyst, Emerald, Ruby, Sapphire, Lapis Lazuli. (You can take away or add onto it .png)- meteorite.
Books: Sci-fi book, Fantasy book, Romance book, Horror book, Biography, diary. (What? Sci-fi nerd dragons would be awesome!)
Paper: Torn parchment, burned scroll, blank parchment, scroll with poetry, scroll with legends, ancient map, origami models.
Metal: Tin *this could include tin cans .png*, steel *could include swords/armor*, bronze, silver, gold, platinum.
Glass: sea glass, lightning glass, stained glass fragment, stained glass window, glass figurines.
Plants: Crushed flower, pretty flower, seedling tree, grown up tree, mint, sage, aloe plant, cactus, wooden figures.
Beach Driftwood, kelp, cracked seashell, sea glass, small sea shell, large sea shell.
hatchling list:
an oddly shaped rock,a tattered rag doll,a stray dragon scale,a torn page from a spell book (magi only?),a dog / cat toy,a strangely shaped stick,a baby blanket,a bottle,a noo - noo,a saucer of milk
Dew of Haste When spread upon an egg or fed to a hatchling, this dew increases the rate of growth hormone production. (Subtracts 24 hours from the time till death.)
Dew of Sloth When spread upon an egg or fed to a hatchling, this dew decreases the rate of growth hormone production. (Adds 24 hours to the time till death.)
Funeral Prayer This prayer is said to help settle the souls of the dead. (Subtract x days from the time till a dead egg or tombstone disappears from your scroll.)
????? When fed to a female dragon, this herb/potion/???? increases the probability of a produced egg being the same species she is. (Does not increase probability of producing an egg, but increases probability that an egg, if produced, is the same breed as the mother.)
????? When fed to a male dragon, this herb/potion/???? increases the probability of a produced egg being the same species he is. (Does not increase probability of producing an egg, but increases probability that an egg, if produced, is the same breed as the father.)
????? When fed to a dragon, this herb/potion/???? increases the probability that an egg will be produced.
????? A rare potion made from the humours of an especially strong female dragon. An egg bathed in this serum will always hatch into a female dragon.
????? A rare potion made from the humours of an especially strong male dragon. An egg bathed in this serum will always hatch into a male dragon.
Claymore: The blade of this sword is broken, as if it shattered against the breast of a dragon before its bearer was consumed.
Rapier: The hilt of this sword is covered in gold and jewels, indicating that it was ceremonial or owned by someone who was very wealthy. Now it is owned by your dragon.
Sword Dragon Sword: It is nearly impossible to acquire a Sword Dragon's sword, as you must break the magic that binds the sword to the dragon without breaking the magic that has summoned the sword into existence. Most attempts to do this leave the would be thief in several pieces.
Rune: This rune is covered in tarnished gold. You're not sure where it came from, but it looks like it was once embedded in the wall of an ancient stone structure. Perhaps it holds some dark secret?
White Pearl: A giant white pearl wrested from its oyster by a powerful water dragon.
Black Pearl: Arrrr
Ascendance Elixir: Dragons normally only reach the state of Ascension many centuries after they mature. This rare elixir, however, has the power to bring an adult dragon to this state in an instant.
Lump of Gold: This used to be a smile pile of gold coins, before the dragon fire melted them.
Human Skull: Where'd that come from?
Dragon Talon: This sharp talon appears to be a trophy your dragon won in battle.
Dragon Scales: This handful of scales appears to have been blasted off the losing dragon during a battle of magic.
Griffin Heart Stone: This gem is the hardened core of a rare tropical plant. When picked, the core of the flower crystallizes into a blood red, heart shaped gem.
Arm Bone: How odd, a human arm bone. It looks as though sharp fangs closed upon it, perhaps as it was reaching for eggs.
Scrap of Red Cloth: This shredded cloth looks to have been part of the cape of a lord, before it was forcibly torn from his back.
Piece of Blue Satin: A shiny bit of cloth that must have been a part of a beautiful garment, but it's sadly singed now.
Jeweled Gauntlet: This gauntlet must have belonged to someone very rich. I wonder how they lost it?
Gem Encrusted Egg: This pretty prize is shaped like an egg. What do you suppose would happen if you placed it with your other eggs?
Tiny Green Glove: A silk glove that looks like it belonged to a child.
Glass Slipper: Bits of dried pumpkin are clinging to this odd shoe.
Ugly Ore: This ore seems to have no value. Perhaps a bit of dragon fire and magic could find refine it?
Shiny Round Thing This small sphere is very shiny.
Alpine: "Valuable gems and metals can often be found in this area as well as [insert samples of items to be found]. Once in a while, the remains of careless adventurers provide surprising treasures."
Spyglass,Human Skull/bones,Ice pick,Pick Axe,Mine cart,Pocket watch,Compass,Map,Drafting,compass,Snowglobe,Meteorite
Coast: "Sea food can be found at the shoreline, flotsam and jetsam are washed ashore, and other interesting things like [insert samples of items to be found] make for interesting finds."
Sea Shells (there are a large variety of kinds),Sand Dollar,Driftwood,Starfish,Ship Anchor,Missing Helm,Treasure Chest,Ancient Doubloon,Cannonball,Astrolabe,Coral,Fish Bones,Coconuts,Boot,Sea grass,Trident,kelp
Desert: "[insert samples of items to be found] are common to be found in this area. Long lost ruins are scattered across the desert and hold unclaimed properties of valuable nature – or junk. Swelling rivers during the rain period carry interesting items from remote areas with them."
Golden Scarabs,Old scrolls,ink pots,Genie Lamp,Sun dial,Fossils,Incense burner,Scimitars,Cactus,burned scroll,Old map,Hourglass,Rune slabs,Magnifying glass
Forest: :Travelers frequently stumble across [Insert samples of items to be found]. Humans are known to throw away trash or accidently leave behind their most precious items, although some are easily mistaken for the other.
human toy,Teddy Bear,Toy top,Bucket,Buckle,Crown/ Princess Tiara,Gold Bauble,Glass Slipper,Spinning Wheel,Chess Piece (possibly multiples to form a set),Tapestry,Wagon,Mirror (hand mirror?),Stray Livestock,Broken Wagon Wheel,Scrap fabric,Bifocals,Potato,Carrot
Jungle: "[insert samples of items to be found] are a common sight in a jungle. Plants, seeds and sprouts can be collected nearly everywhere. Abandoned cities or mysterious temple sites are hidden in thick undergrowth, travellers need a good eye to discover them."
Enchanted plants,Rare Herbs/flowers,Dragon Mosaic,Broken Egg shells,Ancient data monster/lagmonster statue,Feathered Headress,Sun god amulet,jewelled figurines,Gem encrusted egg,Banana
Volcano: "Volcanoes are good sites to find valuable gems or minerals. [insert samples of items to be found] are known to be spread across the area, and [insert samples of items to be found] may be discovered with a good portion of luck."
Raw Ores,Valuable unpolished gemstones,Scorched shield,Jeweled Gauntlet,Dagger
Basics:Gemstones (saphires, rubies, diamonds, emeralds, ambethyst, topaz, etc)
Coins (gold, silver, bronze),Books (different sizes?),Old scrolls,Jeweled ink pots,Swords,Pearls (Waters only?),Books/Tomes,Coral,Feathers,Swords,Glowing Swords,Mirror,Livestock
Wagon - can be used to carry the egg or hatchling to a different scroll.
charred Knight ashes
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AND MUCH MUCH MORE! I only grabbed things that people had arranged in lists.. (srry about being lazy?) also ignore any duplicates that people made ^^

Anyways since I started with the emense list of sprite ideas... I'd like to go into detail about certain ideas concerning special items

Humans: Many people posted saying they would be interested in the idea of your dragon kidnapping/inviting/enslaving people. (I would like to add that there are problems with the fast-paced time stream in dragon cave so they would have to be perishable ><)
Potions and Slavs: Many potion ideas were tossed around too. like a potion that Ascends your dragon... or a incubating potion... (which is why theres a bunch of potion sprites) They were suggested as expendable items that had a function similar to many BSAs
Pets: Similar to humans except more focused on animals... (really makes me think of that dragon that hoarded dogs in Dragon Slipper...)
useable items: mostly tied to potions and stuff but other items were suggested that had a purpose (the wagon was one that jumps out for me)
combine-able items: mostly if you collect a certain number of items you get the choice to squish them all together into a bigger pile...but also items were if you collected all the pieces they became a new item (example: collect all pieces of armor = suit of armor)
perishable items: items that disapeer after awhile (food, dead bodies, and swords that rust)
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aside from the items themselves here's a list about ideas that were proposed... several are just so completely illogical that it seems silly I'd have to post them :\ but I'll post them anyways...

Individual hoards: idea that each dragon has their own hoard
Scroll hoard: idea that either your dragons share a hoard OR that the hoard is actually stuff they collect for you
Actions page: idea that this would be a action button on all dragons (EXAMPLE)
BSAs: Idea that this ability would be specific per each dragon (example: deep seas have the action Dive instead of search, which finds items)
Areas: (note pre-biodomes) that the dragons had multiple areas they could search around in but certain dragons couldn't go to certain areas (lol why are deep seas such a good example maker?)
Failure: searching for items could fail (I.E. dragon brings nothing back)
toss items: idea that if your dragon brings something back you didn't have to keep it. (again deep sea ><) also an idea of a Cleaning option were you discard all your items at once. (actually a proposed BSA for springs)
Long Cooldowns: the idea that since many people have MANY dragons the search action should have a VERY long cool down
1 action: idea that instead of each dragon having their own search button all search buttons are linked (similar to trios) so that one dragon could search at a time (*buts in* I feel that this could be changed so that you can choose a limit of dragons... and it would work like the current egg limits) (or also an idea of a button in account actions were were you select from there which dragons go search)
Make-it-like-dragons: idea that the items show up in the abandoned place and cave side by side with dragons
Egg freezing: hatchies will collect pieces of eggs to create eggs (of their own breed)
dislikes and likes per breed: idea that certain breeds won't/can't go some places and are more likely to get stuff from some places (also suggested is finding glue which would be used to put dead eggs together again)
Primarily hoards: idea that a each dragon hoards one thing more than other things (example: deep seas will find mostly shells)
Run away: anything that lives will/may eventually escape from the hoard
Written list: instead of sprites there be a written list for public to see
automatic: there is no actual action for searching for the items but dragons will randomly pop-up having items (maybe hoard icon glows when they have found somethin and it'll act as message center)
non-dragon hoarding: idea that even non-dragons hoard things due to exposure to dragons (example chickens collect feathers)
restriction: certain breeds can find things and only that breed can find them (example: deep seas can only find special ultra-rare shell)
give to another dragon: idea that one dragon could give an item to another to increase probability of breeding between the two
Growing piles: piles grow with clicks and views like dragons do
helps with breeding: bigger hoard = more likely to reproduce
Limit to items: idea that you can only collect so many items (per items type or just in general) and amount you can keep increases with trophy level
Hatchling (ungendered): Can only search a very limited space, since it stays under your direct supervision. Bits of string, clovers, pretty rocks, colorful egg shards, and other small things they can find without getting into trouble. The clovers would probably be the rare.
Hatchling (gendered): Can search a wider area, but still not go far. They can start finding seashells, animal bones, and metal ore (stolen from a blacksmith).
Adults can find items actually worth having, the other items kind of train the dragon to be able to find this stuff to begin with. Different dragon 'types' could find different things like suggested earlier (chromatic (rainbow color named) dragons and metal dragons find coins of various kinds with increasing pile size, gem and mineral dragons find gems, etc etc).
day and night: idea that some items are found at night and some at day
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interface ideas: (cave of finance ...view page...per dragon

Possible outcomes from hoard action:
Dragon refuses to search.
Dragon doesn't find anything.
Dragon finds some goodies and keeps them.
Dragon finds some goddies and doesn't want them, so he gives them to you, whereupon you have the option to trash them.

and oh lord I found some good jokes ><

^ idea for HumanCave >< (not complaining about dino cave but I would of liked this April Fools joke more)

OH Also for those who skipped to the end ^^
this may help you? or maybe this...

This post has been edited by 626lavaheart on Apr 28 2012, 10:05 PM

Seems like a good idea, but where will these show up? On the dragons info page or on another page linked n the dragons info? Like 'Hoarded items'?

Dovealove is no longer present on this site. So are we all happy for making a new thread?

Individual hoards would be too much. I vote for scroll-wide hoard.

This post has been edited by Ashywolf on Apr 29 2012, 10:57 AM

Cleaned the thread a bit, but then I had to pop out. But I got all most of the description talk and a lot of bumps.

I have been keeping the OP up to date, but just copy'pasta'ing info people have provided in the thread. If one of you would like to make a totally new thread you can keep organized and updated, for art, how it would be done, whatever else, I would be fine with that. This one would be closed if that happened. :3

Bumping this post here because I thought it was interesting and offered an interesting way of doing the Hoarding action.

I would make a shiny new thread but I still don't understand how people post images from their links.

I agree deeply on moving this to a new thread... mostly because I'm pretty sure we have most of the needed info from this site...

oh and I think it should be a scroll wide hoard... were you can send a certain number of dragons searching for treasure (no trophy=4 bronze=5 silver=6 gold=7) and the page should look like this one except instead of name maybe a really short description... Unless it's decided the items that the items have no use ^^; then I'd be fine with the usual holiday collecting look.

I like the idea of there being multiple areas to choose from and that some dragons wouldn't be able to travel in some areas... but I think that it should be taken to the extreme of if that dragon doesn't show up in that biodome then it can't search there... I'd also be ok with special biodomes like... I don't know... abandoned castle or caves or something ><

oh and I feel zombies, neglecteds, and non dragons shouldn't be able to search along with ungendered hatchies? And that nocterns should only be able to search at night if at all...

Wow, 626lavaheart, I commend you on that long list you compiled. You did a great job summing a lot of ideas up.

I also think a shiny new thread would be great. Dove's original OP is over 4 years old. There's also been a great deal of changes to the site since the idea began.

Why not? Make yet another reason to want a Neglected....

Zombies would only find brains, so I think that might be a bit pointless.

There is a follow up to that post here. I still like hoarding, but discussion always dried up, so... yeah.

thx Daydreamer09 >< mostly I watch anime on one side of my screen and searched through the posts on the other... Multitasking FTW!

@Ashywolf I feel that since neglected are so weak that they don't even have the strength to breed that them searching for treasure wouldn't be very realistic >< also I can't see zombies really being able to find stuff... zombies in general aren't to bright... I don't think Dragon Zombies are an exception all I can see them doing is wandering around in circles... plus I think zombies universally hunt by scent...

EDIT: lol just thought of a good X-mas treasure... Fancy Stantas

EDIT again: oh maybe to decide on what exactly we should do we should have a series of polls??

This post has been edited by 626lavaheart on May 1 2012, 07:08 AM

This would be so cute and bring about more depth to the dragons, even though there is already such depth with breeds and lineages...I love this idea tons. +

lol I have way to much time at lunch ><



lol also made TJ's lip hairs... but having made it without a reference of the real one mines not quite as stout as his so I'll added after I edit it...
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This post has been edited by 626lavaheart on May 2 2012, 09:23 PM