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tina21
Posted: Nov 23 2009, 09:36 AM
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@superior What I mean is that I don't remember what I influenced the eggs to be... and it would be good to have an indication beside the [Already Influenced] with a gender sign as to what it was influenced... its a simple case of forgetfulness

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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 10:55 AM
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I had been away a while until a few days ago, so I had no idea that we were implementing BSA's on certain breeds. I think it's one of the coolest ideas since...well, some other great idea tongue.gif Only *activates multiphasic shielding* I don't think there should be limits on how many times you can use the actions during a given time frame. Or at least the amount of times you can use it in a given time frame should be increased.
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 01:32 PM
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Avatar: The BSAs would be overused, and that would be really bad.
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 03:33 PM
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I think I've got an idea for the new ice dragon (or whatever its name will be): Temporary freeze: This ability would freeze all your eggs and hatchlings temporary. Their time would not run out, and they won't develop further.

I think there are several ways to change this:
- affects only one egg/hatchie
- lasts until manually removed vs. limited amount of time
- if the amount of time is limited, several uses of this ability can be stacked at once. (So, you use it twice on the same target. Thus, the target won't be frozen for one day, but two.)

What's the idea behind this, you might ask. Well, it's simple. Sort of a holiday/sickness leave for whenever you cannot take proper care of your dragons.

Of course, this BSA might also fit the description of the winter dragon.

Also, the icicle dragon might have something like the aforementioned "cool down" BSA, adding one day to the time of an egg. Electric dragons could have "paralyze", adding one day to the development of a hatchling. And the fire/volcano/whatever dragons could have an equivalent of "incubate" for hatchlings.

Uh, or not?
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 03:46 PM
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Zombie BSA: Eat your brains

Basically has a chance of turning hatchling/adult into a zombie dragon. Has a chance of killing them, or having them run away ("Agh, he's trying to eat me, run!"), or even killing the zombie dragon ("Take this, you undead *******!")

Pygmy dragons BSA: Scavenge Eggshells

Able to get a hatchlings eggshell pieces and put them back together. There is a time limit after it hatches, since the eggshell would get crushed too badly to be put together after a while. I noticed this being mentioned in the "freezing egg" forum, and thought the "put together an eggshell" might be a decent BSA.
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (olympe @ Nov 23 2009, 01:33 PM)
I think I've got an idea for the new ice dragon (or whatever its name will be): Temporary freeze: This ability would freeze all your eggs and hatchlings temporary. Their time would not run out, and they won't develop further.

I think there are several ways to change this:
- affects only one egg/hatchie
- lasts until manually removed vs. limited amount of time
- if the amount of time is limited, several uses of this ability can be stacked at once. (So, you use it twice on the same target. Thus, the target won't be frozen for one day, but two.)

What's the idea behind this, you might ask. Well, it's simple. Sort of a holiday/sickness leave for whenever you cannot take proper care of your dragons.

Of course, this BSA might also fit the description of the winter dragon.

Also, the icicle dragon might have something like the aforementioned "cool down" BSA, adding one day to the time of an egg. Electric dragons could have "paralyze", adding one day to the development of a hatchling. And the fire/volcano/whatever dragons could have an equivalent of "incubate" for hatchlings.

Uh, or not?

Isn't this basically the same as "unfreezing", in that you're pausing a dragon? If you know you can't take care of your dragons, don't pick up new ones. Problem solved without having to put in a BSA.


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Re: [eating] Your Brains
Are you aware of how zombie dragons are made? Owner kills dragon and something goes wrong with revival, usually on Halloween. So putting a BSA to do that is redundant; rumors have been circulating around in that zombies can be revived on other days of the year as well, just with a lower chance than on Halloween.
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (olympe @ Nov 23 2009, 03:33 PM)
I think I've got an idea for the new ice dragon (or whatever its name will be): Temporary freeze: This ability would freeze all your eggs and hatchlings temporary. Their time would not run out, and they won't develop further.

I think there are several ways to change this:
- affects only one egg/hatchie
- lasts until manually removed vs. limited amount of time
- if the amount of time is limited, several uses of this ability can be stacked at once. (So, you use it twice on the same target. Thus, the target won't be frozen for one day, but two.)

What's the idea behind this, you might ask. Well, it's simple. Sort of a holiday/sickness leave for whenever you cannot take proper care of your dragons.

Of course, this BSA might also fit the description of the winter dragon.

Also, the icicle dragon might have something like the aforementioned "cool down" BSA, adding one day to the time of an egg. Electric dragons could have "paralyze", adding one day to the development of a hatchling. And the fire/volcano/whatever dragons could have an equivalent of "incubate" for hatchlings.

Uh, or not?

we dont know anthing about the ice dragon yet either. and it does sound like unfreezeing..
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 04:49 PM
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I'd kind of like the new ice dragon, if applicable, to have the same BSA as the Winter dragon. That Deep Freeze one seemed okay for both...
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Lythiaren @ Nov 23 2009, 04:39 PM)
Re: [eating] Your Brains
Are you aware of how zombie dragons are made? Owner kills dragon and something goes wrong with revival, usually on Halloween. So putting a BSA to do that is redundant; rumors have been circulating around in that zombies can be revived on other days of the year as well, just with a lower chance than on Halloween.

Ah, I see, I didn't know that... I thought they were a holiday-only, or going to be more common one (like the vampire), so I was thinking along the lines of Bite, only for hatchlings/adults, since eggs don't really have brains.

Hmm... otherwise, I can't think of anything useful for it to have... I'm kinda bad with that.
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Posted: Nov 23 2009, 06:27 PM
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Pygmy dragons BSA: Scavenge Eggshells

Able to get a hatchlings eggshell pieces and put them back together. There is a time limit after it hatches, since the eggshell would get crushed too badly to be put together after a while. I noticed this being mentioned in the "freezing egg" forum, and thought the "put together an eggshell" might be a decent BSA.

But you should have hatched several of these eggs within the last two or three days. Like three or four eggs so you have enough pieces to put an egg together. (Yes, I know, it would make it near to impossible to get a frozen rare. But, hey, they are meant to be rare - or so I've been told. Besides, when the ratios are back to normal, long-time breeders will have their chance, too.)
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Posted: Nov 24 2009, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE (olympe @ Nov 23 2009, 06:27 PM)
But you should have hatched several of these eggs within the last two or three days. Like three or four eggs so you have enough pieces to put an egg together. (Yes, I know, it would make it near to impossible to get a frozen rare. But, hey, they are meant to be rare - or so I've been told. Besides, when the ratios are back to normal, long-time breeders will have their chance, too.)

Really, I think it would make more sense if it was one egg, though. For one thing, the shell is only broken into pieces when the egg hatches, pieces don't disappear completely. For another, trying to use the pieces from several different eggs to put one egg together would be kind of like taking a few pieces from a bunch of different puzzles and trying to put them together: they just wouldn't fit. If you want to keep it from being overused (though I'm not sure why it matters), it makes more sense to just have a relatively high failure rate, either because it can't find all the pieces, or because it can't figure out how to put them together.
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Posted: Nov 24 2009, 04:27 AM
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Good point.
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Posted: Nov 24 2009, 04:57 AM
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The idea of a Magi's teleport idea would obliterate normal trading, and would mean far less lost dragons. Maybe you would be able to select one of your dragons, then type in the name of the scroll you want to trade with, then the trade is completed.

Red dragons should be able to incubate eggs to make them hatch quicker, maybe another dragon (green?) could make eggs hatch slower.

Zombies should be able to infect others like most zombies and vampires do.

White dragons can heal a sick dragon but they can only do this once a week.

Mint dragons should, as mentioned before, be able to steal a randomly generated CB egg.

-Phovos
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Posted: Nov 24 2009, 05:13 AM
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QUOTE (Phovos the Raptor @ Nov 24 2009, 04:57 AM)
The idea of a Magi's teleport idea would obliterate normal trading, and would mean far less lost dragons. Maybe you would be able to select one of your dragons, then type in the name of the scroll you want to trade with, then the trade is completed.

Red dragons should be able to incubate eggs to make them hatch quicker, maybe another dragon (green?) could make eggs hatch slower.

Zombies should be able to infect others like most zombies and vampires do.

White dragons can heal a sick dragon but they can only do this once a week.

Mint dragons should, as mentioned before, be able to steal a randomly generated CB egg.

-Phovos

huh.gif Er, I think that's kind of the idea with the magi's ability, reds are already able to do that, greens already have a different ability, TJ says no BSAs for rares (which would presumably include zombies), that's essentially the ability that has already been confirmed for whites, and TJ also says no spontaneous egg creation. All of that info (except for the part about the reds and greens, but if you have those you can just look on their actions page) can be found in the first post.

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Posted: Nov 24 2009, 06:52 AM
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I've read the first few pages and the last few pages, but not the whole thread. Please forgive me if I repeat an idea that's already been suggested.

Grey/storm dragons can produce fog, right? But people can already fog their eggs and hatchlings and no-one wants to lose that ability, since it can be the only way to save an egg with too many views. But has anyone suggested getting a grey dragon to fog an egg for you when you're not there?
Say you just caught a new egg, you want to post it to a fansite, but you're going to be busy and might not have time to check on it. You could set a grey dragon to watch over the egg and if it gets sick the dragon will fog it at once for a set time (either X amount of hours, or until Y days remaining, whichever TJ thinks is best).
I'm not sure how long the cooldown should be, but I think that would be useful without being overpowered. Anyone?


My other suggestion is for an action that's not useful at all, just fun. I don't know if BSAs that don't affect gameplay are even a possibility, but it seems like a lot of suggestions have been shot down for being too powerful and affecting the game too much, so maybe there should be some that don't affect it at all.
Seasonal dragons could decorate your scroll. In Autumn an Autumn dragon can decorate your scroll with autumn leaves, in Winter a Winter dragon can do snowflakes. Blossom and maybe green leaves for the Spring dragons, and buttercups and daisies in Summer. I did think of having animated falling snow/blowing leaves, but then I realised that would slow the site right down and that would suck, so how about just making them a border or a background? I'd like it, and maybe I'm the only person or maybe not. What do you think?
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