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TJ09TJ09TJ09
Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:11 AM
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I'm relatively sure that something resembling this may have popped up in the past, but that was a while ago.

Anyways, I'd like to see user opinions on the possibility of dragons having specific abilities. These abilities would only be able to be used once every x period (which may vary depending on the breed), and would not be too "overpowered."

The list as it stands (Tentative)

Magi: Teleport
user posted imageAllows you to "transport" an egg or unfrozen hatchling to another scroll. (Replaces AP trading)
user posted imagePossibly how it'd work:
user posted imageuser posted imageWhen you use this, it generates a randomized "claim" link. If you give this link to someone else and they visit it, it'll transfer the egg/hatchling to their scroll.
user posted imagePossible variations:
user posted imageuser posted imageThe ability to "target" the claim link so only one person can use it. If that happens, it'd also be possible to notify them that they have a pending transfer when they visit the site so you don't have to actually give them the claim link.
user posted imageuser posted imageIn addition, some sort of tool to allow people to "safely" trade to prevent scamming.
White: Heal
user posted imageProtect from death sickness one time. (Or for x period of time)
Vampire: Bite
user posted imageTransforms egg into vampire egg with 25% chance of failure and possible abandonment of egg (To prevent people from hoarding them)
Purple: Fertility
user posted imageGuarantee that next breeding attempt will be successful unless the two dragons are incompatible (A.K.A. would always reject each other, not just produce no eggs). Would have a high "cool down" to make sure people can't use it every week.

Not Happening
  • Unfreezing
  • BSA's for rare dragons (Including Dinos)
  • Spontaneous egg creation
  • Taking dragons from the wilderness
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Khallayne
Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:12 AM
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This would be awesome, TJ.

Edit: (I fail at going into depth with what I was going to say). I think this would be a great idea! It would also cause certain dragons to be collected at a swifter rate, and allow users to create breeding and hatching styles that are unique to themselves, almost like a dragon trainer.....

Blah. I give up. This thought isn't coming out as it should. xd.png It's 4am.

Bottom line: Great idea, you have my support in this.

{Had to edit the formatting.}


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Irish_Dragoness
Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:17 AM
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I think it would be a great way to build some interactive features into the game! Just enhancing the current dynamic, essentially...not changing the face of the game altogether. I would love to see some of the under-valued dragons have these features...even if they are something small. It may be a great way to increase the popularity of the mints, pinks and purples, among other less valued species...

Edit to add an idea:

To address the concerns over the Storm dragon replacing the current fog ability for new users or users who don't collect storms, is there some way to leave the current action of fogging (as we do it now) for those newer users who haven't collected storms yet or users who choose not to collect them...essentially what I'm getting at is that once you get a Storm then the fog/hide ability changes from the way we have it now to the duty/job of the Storms on the scroll to hide/fog the eggs & hatchies as needed. That way it gives the breed a vital job to do (increasing it's popularity and reducing AP time for all those eggs) while not penalizing new players or players who don't want them.

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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:17 AM
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I definitely like the sound of the Magi abilities.

Red seems like it would be something that would take away time - incubating would speed up the process, thus taking away time would bring it to the point of hatching quicker. (A gentler form of forcing.)

The idea of it varying on the breed sounds good too. Something like the Grey's ability to fog would be needed more often (and should be available more often, I'd think) than say - the Magi's, or even the Red's, whereas Bite is in essence the Vampire's breed function, so it could be the usual 7 days (which could maybe be the "middle ground" of cooldown times?).
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:19 AM
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If silvers could do that, I'd be hunting silvers till they came out my ears!

I think this is excellent.

Perhaps reds could add or subtract time at the users choice? Either to delay a hatching, or speed it up depending on their needs.
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Shszha
Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:28 AM
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I like the idea, because it would add depth to the game. Certain aduslts suddenly would have more use than just breeding for more dragons.
In my opinion, that would also help to reduce the amount of eggs in the AP, because people would see more purpose (and/or fun) in the adults' abilities than simply breeding them. Maybe the actions could count against the breeding? SO either breed or (eg.) incubate.
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Ahkalia
Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:35 AM
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I definitely like this idea, I would definitely like to see the dragons have unique abilities like this. I remember some of those discussions about possible dragon abilities. I'm pretty sure it had been in the Accendance thread before the first wipe, but it might have been in a different thread...
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:42 AM
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this would be great smile.gif it will make DC even more unique!
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:45 AM
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Great ideas!!

What if the Vampire can only strike around full moon (maybe on the night of full moon and the night before and after), so that would make it a monthly action in stead of every week. Ok, that's more like werewolves, but something like that would work for vampires too. And it ensures that Vampires stay rare (biting once a week would soon make them common, I think).

Do silvers need a special ability? People will want to collect them anyway (just like other rare species). Maybe Pinks or Purples can have the ability to determine gender in stead. Hey, for an all female species to survive, they will need a way to make sure there are plenty of male partners around, don't they?

Guardians should have some special ability too, maybe they protect hatchlings similar to fog. Or maybe they help catch a hatchling if you kill/force an egg, increasing the chance that you get to keep the baby dragon.

Black, Stone, pebble and Vine probably don't need something; people want them anyway for the alts and Geodes.
But what if some other type of dragon could give a blessing that would alter chances that an egg would produce an alt? That would have to be a very rare ability. But it would be something nice to have from time to time. It feels appropriate for a Valentines day dragon to have such a rare ability (even though I don't have any, so why am I proposing this?).

Now, if only we could think of something awesome for Mint dragons. They need a redeeming quality more than any other type of dragon. They must be able to use their amazing Mintal powers for some task...
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 02:45 AM
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Me likey. I better start hoarding magi dragons. xd.png

Edit: But for the 'change egg into another type', it will finally imply that you'll let a black X vine pairing produce a gold, eh?

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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:34 AM
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There was a thread just like this a while ago, except with a comprehensive list of abilities for all species. I feel that if abilities are going to be released, then all dragons should get them
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE (david_jansen @ Apr 12 2009, 02:48 AM)
Now, if only we could think of something awesome for Mint dragons. They need a redeeming quality more than any other type of dragon. They must be able to use their amazing Mintal powers for some task...

Mints are good at hiding and running, right? What if the mint has an ability to sneak into the cave and filtch a rare egg? This would probably have to have a lower chance of success, (like 15% to 25%) or it could have a mix. Say there is a 40% chance of success, and then there's an 85% chance the egg it brings back to you is a random normal egg (vine, water, fog, etc), and a 15% chance of it bringing you a random rare egg.

With the mix method, the overall probability of snagging a common egg is 34% and the over all probability of snagging a rare egg is 6%. I asked my girlfriend to do the math since she's currently taking a probability and statistics class.

Of course, all the eggs snatched by mints would be CBs.

This could give an advantage to people with slow connections who can never snag the egg they want in the cave, since the computer would choose the egg at random upon success.

And I'd have to say that maybe you could do it once every two weeks, unless you're scroll locked. Then you can't send your mints into the cave.

And this would still keep rares rare. Because even if you have an army of mints, the chance of success is low.
For example with the mix method (which I personally like best for some reason), if you had 10 mints and sent them all to steal from the cave, you'd only have a 60% chance of getting one rare egg.

Again, all credit goes to my girlfriend for the math, and for not punching me out because I woke her to figure this out at 3:30 am/

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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:38 AM
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QUOTE (Lord_Shadow_the_hedgehog @ Apr 12 2009, 04:39 AM)
Mints are good at hiding and running, right? What if the mint has an ability to sneak into the cave and filtch a rare egg? This would probably have to have a lower chance of success, (like 15% to 25%) or it could have a mix. Say there is a 40% chance of success, and then there's an 85% chance the egg it brings back to you is a random normal egg (vine, water, fog, etc), and a 15% chance of it bringing you a random rare egg.

Genius idea
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:42 AM
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^^ I like Shadow's idea as well. xd.png

Like the Magis ability best, though.
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:44 AM
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This sounds like a great idea, TJ! It would really add a new dynamic to the game, and give even more randomness.

I'd like to second the idea of mints having a special ability- what that ability would be, I'm not sure. Maybe it could randomly freeze any hatchlings you have? Or maybe turning any eggs of 'violent' dragons into 'peaceful' dragons, like white or other mints. You know, as a cautionary feature.
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:49 AM
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This is just Awesome.

About the magi : how about adding See gender to the random actions? (and I take it that mature/hatch would be a low-probability action?)

Not sure about replacing the current "hide" action with a "fog" action for gray dragons. Hide is used a lot to protect eggs from overviewing.

I remember seeing the thread you're referring to. It mentioned having the red dragons "thaw" a frozen hatchling. Is that a no-no?

I agree with the idea of having pink and purple dragons increase the chance of getting a specific gender, rather than silvers.

Mints... have no magic powers, no way to attack or defend themselves...
Maybe they could "steal" a random egg from the wild dragons (tiny probability of getting a rare)?
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:52 AM
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QUOTE (celine.lechat @ Apr 12 2009, 03:52 AM)
Mints... have no magic powers, no way to attack or defend themselves...
Maybe they could "steal" a random egg from the wild dragons (tiny probability of getting a rare)?

Wait...Isn't that what I just suggested? huh.gif
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 03:57 AM
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I love this! It would give players more incentive to collect all breeds of dragon. Specifically, it would be good of some of the less popular dragons had cool abilities that made people want them more.
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 04:02 AM
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While I like the idea overall, I think some of the abilities suggested (Magi, for example,) are far, far too overpowered.
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Posted: Apr 12 2009, 04:08 AM
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Also, would alts have slightly different abilities? Or would their abilities be identical to normal dragons?
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