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***IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH ***

Updated all charts. Note that the first chart has many pink or 0% results. This is due to the new dragons and lack of information. Please use the chart that goes with it to show the formula counts as it will show you where the data is 0% because that cross has not been tried.

The Geode is still a problem, but I have incorporated it into all charts the best I can. Note that on the egg results chart, the first generation Geodes that are the result of crossing Stone x Stone, Stone x Green, or Green x Green are not shown as the table is not able to calculate a third possibility for the results. But any Geode bred to any other dragon will show up.

***END OF IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH ***


I was asked to create a new post for tracking breeding percentages so that the rules would be on the first page. After long thought, I came to the conclusion that it might not be a bad idea to create a new post for this and ONLY include information from the new server change forward. (From Jan 10, 2009 forward) The charts in this post will only contain information from that date forward.

In order to get the information into the excel spreadsheet, the following rules must be applied, and if not followed, it won't be included in the results:

1) All types of dragons shortened to a standard 3 letter code as follows:

2) The results should be listed as follows:
Bred, No egg
No Interest
Refused

3) If it is a first time pairing, then end the line with a + sign.

4) Formatted so it reads Type Type result. It would look like this:

Blk Red Refused
Spl Spl Bred, No Egg +
Mag Gol No Interest
Sil Vin +
Wht Sea

(Note the last 2 entries. There is nothing where the result should be. This indicates a successful pairing where at least one egg is produced. And it doesn't matter if the male or female is listed first. )

5) Egg data can be tacked onto the end of the rest of the above standard formatted information. And how that would be done would be to just put an "=" sign followed by each egg's code.

So you would have a successful breeding that would look something that looks like this:

Blk Wht + = blk wht blk wht

I am using the "=" sign to indicate that everything following the "=" sign are for the kinds of eggs. What the above code means is that a Black and a White dragon were mated for the first time, and the result are 4 eggs, 2 of which are black, and 2 that are white. So if you only get one egg, then you would only have 1 color code following the = sign, and 2 eggs would be two codes, 3 eggs would be three codes, and 4 eggs would be 4 codes.

6) PLEASE do NOT add any other information to the beginning or end of the lines that contain the standard formatted code. Keep all information listed as it shows in #4. If you wish to list more information in your preferred format, then that is acceptable if it follows the at the bottom of your post. (Yes, I like that expanded information, but the Excel formulas key off of very specifically formatted information. So show it if you wish, but only at the bottom of your post.)

7) PLEASE do NOT add new breedings to previous posts as it is too hard to figure out where the old records stop and the new updates start. I will ONLY be looking at information to add from my last post forward as I will note where I stopped adding information to the currently shown chart.

8) For ease of access, I will not be going outside of this thread to collect data. The reasons for this are many, but mostly the biggest reason is that the data I am asking for is not in the format that will work with my spreadsheet which means that I have to retype all of the breeding records by hand. This defeats the purpose of this thread which is to standardize the information as much as possible to make it as easy and accurate as possible for the information to be analyzed. So what I am saying is that if you want your records included, they must be posted in this thread in the requested format. Again, it is fine to link to your offsight records, but please do so at the bottom of your post. (Yes, I know it is a lot to ask of everyone as the format is strange, but it works well with Excel and does really minimize errors.)

9) For now, the chart will only be posted on page 1 of this thread as there is no need to post that picture thousands of times. I will keep the rules and the chart all in the first two posts on the first page for easy access.



Thanks for the help with the format of the information. Many hands make light work. ;-)

(And for those that already put the info on the other post, I know it is a lot to ask, but would you mind putting the records from the server change forward here also? I do plan on adding the info posted here to the other thread for a while as I am not convinced that the charts will be that different in the end, but who knows.)

Revision History:

Edited Jan 20, 2009 for addition of notation of first time crosses. This was inserted as rule #3 that states to use a + sign at the end of the line if it is a first time cross.

Edited Jan 30, 2009 for addition of offspring being able to be added at the end of the standard formated code. This was inserted as rule #5.

Edited Feb 23, 2009 for addition of new Dragons (Frills, Geodes, and Valentine). Color code section was updated to reflect the additional codes. Updated News Flash.

Edited Feb 24, 2009 for the addition of a rule that states information must be in this post as I will not go outside of this thread to collect information. This was inserted as rule #8.

This post has been edited by SunQuest on Apr 1 2009, 03:48 PM

All charts but the egg results updated on April 1, 2009.

I have NOT shaded the cells that have no data collected for that cross so that you can see which ones are low due to no data at all for that cell.
This was done on the Breeding Success Percentages chart which is the second one in this post. This chart is where the first condensed chart gets it's information from.

Yes, I know that there are some crosses that are not viable that we know of. But, since the option to try to breed that cross is there, I have
left it as a reportable cross. (IE metallics to metallics)

Trivia: There are 8848 reported breedings as of this update which I obtained up until my last post on page 49. Great job all




Here is a picture of the numbers used to generate the above chart.



This is Danacc's chart which shows the relationship between first time breedings and out right refusals. Again, many thanks to Danacc for the
calculations that she merged into my workbook.



First chart showing eggs from breedings!

What this chart shows is the percentage of each type of egg produced from only successful pairings. Only the breedings that have the egg
types reported are used in the figures for this chart.

NOTE: First generation Geodes from Stone x Stone, Green x Stone, or Green x Green crosses are not represented on this chart. Only Geodes bred to other dragons are shown as there are issues trying to get the following table to calculate for those crosses.

The way this chart works is that the parent is either in Red for the Column headings, or Blue for the row headings. The offspring shown
as color coded text. The Red text means that the type of egg matches the parent that is in the red colum heading, and if the text is blue, then
the egg matches the parent that is in the blue row heading.



This post has been edited by SunQuest on Apr 1 2009, 03:43 PM

06/07/09

Sun Sun + = Sun

Thanks for that analysis. Looks like you took a good bit of time to work it out.

Another breeding tidbit from today:

Wst Sun + Refuse

I am glad to see some standardized codes for the new eggs. Thanks grizz!

Here are my results for the past few weeks:

spl spl Bred, no egg
spl spl Bred, no egg
DOR DOR Bred, no egg +
spl spl No interest
spl spl =spl
sil fri No interest
sil fri Bred, no egg
sil NPK No interest
wat sil = wat
gra sil = gra
wht wht = wht
red gol = gol
gol mnt = mnt
spl spl Bred, no egg
sil wat = sil +
stn stn = geo +
WST WST = GST
DOR DOR = DOR +
DOR DOR = DOR
WST GST No interest
gol blk = gol +
wht sil = wht
red gol = red red red red
SUN gol No interest +
gol NPK = NPK +
gol mnt = mnt
wht wht Bred, no egg
sil wat = sil

I'm thrilled to see the info being collected again! One point with regards to names (and personally, I don't care what/how things are named, as long as it's standardized): the stripe colors do NOT affect breeding. Any color stripe can generate any other color stripe, given the appropriate partner. So within that scope, I don't see why there should be any differentiation (same as the Dorsals and Suns). But like I said, I don't personally care much - mostly it's just extra work for you to set up additional columns/rows and to split the data out.

Fri Vin + = Fri
Wat Vin = Wat
Pnk Vin no interest +
Vin Stn + = Stn
Wat GST + = Wat
Gra SUN no interest +
Val Blk + = Blk
Wat SUN refused +
Wht Gol no interest +
BAL Gra no interest +
Geo RST bred, no egg +
BAL Gua + = BAL
Blk Sky = Sky
Sea DOR + = Sea
Red Sil bred, no egg +
Stn Sil + = Sil
Pur Gol + = Gol

Very glad to have official codes, and thrilled that someone's still doing something with all this data!

ETA: Would you prefer the older dragon codes in all-lowercase, rather than initial caps as I've done it here, or does it matter? Happy to oblige with whatever's easiest for data-collecting.

This post has been edited by Shollin on Jun 12 2009, 12:45 AM

1 result for now:

WST stn + = WST

For the Stripes: I'd be interested in seeing how the colors breed for a while at least.

@ grizabella - A question about the 3rd chart? It shows a Red Stripe breeding with a Christmas resulted in a White Stripe. Am I reading this correct? Also I thought I saw before the wipe a result of WST chr = RST. Of course I might have seen that somewhere else

mag vin No interest +
wat vin Bred, no egg +
DOR NPK + = NPK
gua WST + = BST

I also think it's interesting to see which colored stripeys come from which parents - it's not necessarily intuitive sometimes (like above with the Christmas breedings producing both red and white stripes!)

I too think the differentiation makes sense.It maynot matter what colour the parent is - but it does interest many people what colour the offspring is. So the colour-differences need only be in the offspring-part. But if you put them as one breed for mating, but four breeds for eggs, that would be even more confusing. ^^

Ok, I have some more stripes to add:

WST chr + = WST
WST chr+ no interest
WST red + = RST
WST red + = RST
WST mnt + = GST
RST GST + = RST
WST WST + + WST
WST DAY + = BST
WST WST = GST
WST grn + = GST
WST red + = red, red, RST
WST WST + = refusal
WST grn + = grn
WST WST + = no eggs

That's all for now

This week's result is this:

WST SUN + = SUN
BAL DAY + Bred, No Egg
DOR NPK + = DOR
Stn Grn = Grn
Red Blk = Blk
Stn Sky = Sky
Mag Wht No Interest
Mnt Vin No Interest
Gra Sea = Gra
Sea Sea Refused
Vin Gua No Interest
Fri Pur No Interest
Fri Mnt = Mnt
Geo Pnk = Pnk
Sea Wht Bred, No Egg
Sky Blk + Refused
Wht Blk + Bred, No Egg

June 1 - 12

Gol Mag = Mag
SUN SUN = SUN
Wht Gol = Wht
Mag Gol = Mag
Wht Vin = Vin
Val DOR = No int
DAY Chr = No int
Gol Sea = No int
NPK Gol = NPK
BST RST = Refused
Sil Vin = Vin
Pnk Gol = No int
Pnk Gol = Gol
Sea Sil = Sea
Spl Spl = Spl
Stn Stn = Bred, no egg
Geo Geo = Geo
WST WST = No int
WST WST = GST
DOR DOR = DOR DOR
Gol Vin = Vin Vin Vin
WST WST = No int
Sil Wht = Wht
Geo Grn = Geo
WST WST = GST
RST WST = No int
Val NPK = Bred, no egg
Blk DAY = No int
Gol Blk = Blk Blk Gol
Mag Gol = Bred, no egg
Gol Wht = Wht
Pnk Sil = Sil
Blk Sil = Sil Blk
Wht Gol = Wht
Gol DOR = Gol
Val WIP = WIP
Geo Geo = Bred, no egg
Grn Geo = Grn
Sil Vin = Bred, no egg
DAY Chr = No int
Vin Sea = Sea
Blk Gol = Gol Blk Blk
SUN SUN = SUN SUN
SUN SUN = SUN
NPK BAL = BAL
BST Chr = No int
Wht RST = No int
Sea Sil = No int
Pnk NPK = NPK
Pnk Gol = Gol
Vin Blk = Blk
Sea Sea = No int
BAL BAL = No int
WST WST = Bred, no egg
WST WST = BST

Today's breeding :
WST Vin + = GST
Sea BAL + No interest
Red NPK + No interest
Geo WIP + = WIP

Not so bad overall, after weeks of not getting any interest.

June 7 thru 13
Gol Blk No interest
Blk Gol No interest
Sil Wat No interest
Sil Gua = Gua
WST WST No interest
WST Wat + = Wat
Gol SUN = Gol
Sil WIP Bred, no egg
DOR Sil = Sil
WST Sea + = WST
Val Sky No interest
Mag Red No interest
Red Mag + = Mag
Gol NPK Bred, no egg
Gol Fri = Fri
Wat Sil = Wat
Sil Fri Bred, no egg
Red Gol = Red
Sil Vin No interest
Sil Blk = Blk
Red Gol = Red
Gol Sea = Sea
Dor Sil No interest
Gol SUN = SUN
SUN Gol No interest
Sil DAY No interest
BAL Sil = BAL
WST WST = WST
GST Chr + = WST
Gol Stn Bred, no egg
Blk Sil = Blk
Sil Sea + = Sea
Spl Spl No interest
Gua Mnt No interest
Pur Vin = Pur
Sea Sea = Sea
Sea Sea = Sea
Sea Sea = Sea
Sea Sea No interest
Sea Sea Bred, no egg
Sea Sea = Sea

WST Grn+ = 1 GST (Green Striped)

Given that there's a large lack of data regarding Geode dragons in the original charts and yet there are a lot of submitted records involving Geode dragons, has anyone ever considered making an updated chart solely for statistics of pairings involving Geode dragons?

Anyways, I did a lot of breeding two days ago. Time to submit my own records. As usual, my records are submitted with the male first, if that's of any relevance.

6/11/09
Gua Fri No Interest
Gua DOR Bred, No Egg
Gua Wat = Gua
DOR Sea + = DOR
Sil Mnt + = Sil Sil
Stn Stn Bred, No Egg
BAL DAY = BAL
WIP Mag Bred, No Egg

so.....i usually keep all my breeding data on mspaint files just copying over pictures of the dragons and the outcomes

i noticed that this thread was looking for records so i went through and transfered all my data into a word document
.....have fun with this wall of text
I keep the same mates and only try new ones if they refuse,

On april 5th, all my seasonxseasons refused, i believe this had to do with release of springs so i'm not sure if you want to add that data in because they were always successful breeding besides the time around new seasonal release

January 17th

Mag Sil = mag mag mag sil
Sil Pur = pur pur sil
Blk Pnk No Interest
Sil Gra = sil
Spl Spl = spl spl spl spl
Gol Stn Bred, No Egg
Stn Red Bred, No Egg
Wat Mag = mag
Gra Sky = sky sky
Mnt Vin = mnt
Red Mag = mag mag
Grn Wht = grn grn grn wht
Gua Wat = wat
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk = wht
Vin Gua = gua gua vin
Sky Mnt No Interest
Vin Sea Bred, No egg
Blk Grn No Interest
Sky Mag Bred, No egg +
Sea Vin = sea
Gua Sea Bred, No egg
Sea Sea No Interest
Sea Sea = sea sea +
Blk Sea Refused +
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
February 8th

Mag Sil No Interest
Sil Pur Bred, No egg
Blk Pnk = blk
Sil Gra = sil
Spl Spl = spl
Gol Stn = stn
Stn Red = red
Wat Mag Bred, No egg
Gra Sky = sky
Mnt Vin = vin
Red Mag = red
Grn Wht = grn
Gua Wat =gua
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk = wht
Vin Gua = vin
Sky Mnt Bred, No egg
Vin Sea = vin
Blk Grn Bred, No egg
Sky Mag = sky
Sea Vin = sea
Gua Sea = sea
Sea Sea = sea
Sea Sea = sea sea
Blk Sea Refused
Sea Wht Refused +
Chr Mnt = mnt +
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
February 23rd

Mag Sil = mag
Sil Pur = pur
Blk Pnk Bred, No egg
Sil Gra = gra
Spl Spl Bred, No egg
Gol Stn = stn
Stn Red = red
Wat Mag Bred, No egg
Gra Sky = sky
Mnt Vin = mnt
Red Mag = red
Grn Wht = wht
Gua Wat No Interest
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk = wht
Vin Gua = gua
Sky Mnt No Interest
Vin Sea Bred, No egg
Blk Grn = grn
Sky Mag =sky
Sea Vin = vin
Gua Sea Bred, No egg
Sea Sea Bred, No egg
Sea Sea = sea
Blk Wht Bred, No egg +
Sea Sea No Interest +
Chr Mnt = mnt
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
April 5th

Mag Sil No Interest
Sil Pur Bred, No egg
Blk Pnk = blk
Sil Gra = sil
Spl Spl = spl
Gol Stn Bred, No egg
Stn Red Bred, No egg
Wat Mag = wat
Gra Sky Bred, No egg
Mnt Vin = vin
Red Mag = red
Grn Wht Bred, No egg
Gua Wat = gua
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk = wht
Vin Gua = gua
Sky Mnt = mnt
Vin Sea = vin
Blk Grn No Interest
Sky Mag = sky
Sea Vin = vin
Gua Sea = gua
Sea Sea Refused
Sea Sea Refused
Blk Wht = blk
Sea Sea Refused
Chr Mnt No Interest
Fri Val = fri +
Stn Stn = geo +
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
April 16th

Mag Sil = sil
Sil Pur = pur
Blk Pnk Bred, No egg
Sil Gra = gra
Spl Spl = spl
Gol Stn = gol
Stn Red = stn
Wat Mag = wat
Gra Sky = sky
Mnt Vin = mnt
Red Mag = red
Grn Wht = grn
Gua Wat = wat
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk Bred, No egg
Vin Gua = grn
Sky Mnt = sky
Vin Sea = grn
Blk Grn = blk
Sky Mag = mag
Sea Vin No Interest
Gua Sea = sea
Sea Sea = sea
Sea Sea = sea
Blk Wht Bred, No egg
Sea Sea = sea
Chr Mnt = mnt
Fri Val = fri
Stn Stn = geo
Fri Geo = fri +
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
May 12th

Mag Sil = mag
Sil Pur = pur
Blk Pnk = pnk
Sil Gra = sil
Spl Spl = spl
Gol Stn = stn
Stn Red = stn
Wat Mag = mag
Gra Sky Bred, No egg
Mnt Vin = vin
Red Mag Bred, No egg
Grn Wht Bred, No egg
Gua Wat = gua
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk = wht
Vin Gua = gua
Sky Mnt No Interest
Vin Sea = vin
Blk Grn No Interest
Sky Mag Bred, No egg
Sea Vin = vin
Gua Sea Bred, No egg
Sea Sea Bred, No egg
Sea Sea = sea
Blk Wht = blk
Sea Sea = sea
Chr Mnt No Interest
Sea Sky Refused +
Fri Val = fri
Stn Stn = geo
Geo Sea Bred, No egg +
Npk Vin = npk +
Day Pur No Interest +
Fri Geo Bred, No egg
Bal Sea Bred, No egg +
Day Sun = day +
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
June 4th

Mag Sil = mag
Sil Pur = pur
Blk Pnk = blk
Sil Gra = sil
Spl Spl No Interest
Gol Stn = stn stn
Stn Red = red
Wat Mag = wat
Gra Sky = sky
Mnt Vin = vin
Red Mag = nag
Grn Wht = wht
Gua Wat No Interest
Spl Spl = spl
Wht Blk Bred, No egg
Vin Gua = gua
Sky Mnt = mnt
Vin Sea = sea
Blk Grn = grn
Sky Mag Bred, No egg
Sea Vin No Interest
Gua Sea = sea
Sea Sea No Interest
Sea Sea = sea
Blk Wht Bred, No egg
Sea Sea = sea
Chr Mnt = mnt
Wip Sky No Interest +
Fri Val Bred, No egg
Stn Stn No Interest
Geo Sea = sea
Npk Vin = vin
Sea Blk Bred, No egg +
Day Pur = pur
Fri Geo No Interest
Bal Sea Bred, No egg
Day Sun = day
Sun Dor = sun +
Npk Sun = sun +
Sea Pnk = Npk +
Dor Wip Refused +

This post has been edited by darkshadow5392 on Jun 13 2009, 06:49 PM

WST DAY = DAY
Sil Vin + Refusal
DOR SUN = SUN

Finally, I'm locked !