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> Cave Blockers: Mossy Egg, As we know, time moves differently...
 
Which plant do you feel is most fitting for this idea?
Moss [ 573 ]  [86.56%]
Lichen [ 85 ]  [12.84%]
Other: I'll tell you in a post or PM [ 4 ]  [0.60%]
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IsmaielDeath
Posted on Aug 26 2011, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (dragcave:D @ Aug 26 2011, 06:25 PM)
i don't think you'dbe allowed to actually put the moss on the actual sprite of the egg would you? because it's not the spriters idea etc.
and moss on the actual dragon wouldn't be allowed either right?

Thats why we decided to use overlays over the eggs. And decided to have only a desription on the dragons. (overlays for all dragons would be to much work)

At least thats what all agreed to till now.
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Valkiepoo
Posted on Aug 26 2011, 11:13 AM
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@ Fiona That looks pretty good for a 5 minute effort! Thank you, I think that'll help a lot with visualization.

@Wookieinmashoo I'd love to see what you can come up with. smile.gif

That goes for anyone that wants to try their hand at an overlay, too. I gave it an attempt myself, but wasn't able to come up with a color that made me happy and it just vanished when applied to some eggs. dry.gif My talents in spriting are still negligible.

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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 12:29 PM
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I had an idea, maybe if you picked up a Vine egg that has the moss effect, it grew Vines instead of Moss. xd.png Just a silly idea though.
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 12:42 PM
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I think this idea is absolutely fantastic. I support it, and personally I believe it will be implemented because it doesn't really change gameplay radically. It only adds to it.

A thought to the moss: Perhaps you guys are overthinking it when it comes to making the eggs mossy. Putting moss over all the eggs, while an exciting idea, might upset some of the spriters who worked hard on those eggs. Instead, would it be possible to show the eggs sitting on a bed of moss which would not overlap the egg, but would still indicate that moss is present? Just an idea. Use it or don't xd.png


A+ idea overall. :3 Can I also have a support mossy eggs banner?
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (Floralpikmin99 @ Aug 26 2011, 11:29 AM)
I had an idea, maybe if you picked up a Vine egg that has the moss effect, it grew Vines instead of Moss. xd.png Just a silly idea though.

The more ideas, the better! However, I think we should keep it simple to start with and only have a single overlay. If it is accepted and implemented, further updates could be explored later such as changes in moss/lichen color and shape, or addition of various parasitic plants.

If any exceptions or differences in plant type are made, I think it would make more sense to choose egg types that otherwise don't make sense. For example, white eggs: This egg has a very clean look; it's completely devoid of dirt and scratches. The idea of moss or lichen growing on a white egg makes less sense than others, as theoretically their health could be self-sustaining. This of course brings us back to the sickness argument though so it just kind of runs around in circles.

@ paradoxangel The banner I created can be used by anyone that feels like using it. biggrin.gif I threw the code up there too in case anyone else wants to add it to their signature. Thanks for your support! And if you feel like making your own banner (or if anyone else does too), I'm happy to include them in the post as well. :3

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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 01:18 PM
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I loved this idea, so I thought I'd try my hand at the moss. ;3 It's not perfect or anything, but maybe it'll give other people some ideas! I mostly did it for fun.

I really liked the idea of a curly, creeping/hanging moss... so that's what happened, lol.

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It might be too dark/green for some of the eggs, but still. :B I liked it. Here's a second one with a patch in the upper right corner:

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I still like the sparkles idea... it's so much cuter than moss... But I guess if moss is the thing, moss it will be.

I think it would be easy enough to explain away things like the White egg description. "This egg is devoid of dirt and scratches, except for that moss."
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 02:37 PM
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Would the timer for an egg becoming mossy be affected by the times when the AP blocks the biomes? Or would it only count down when the AP is unblocked?

Because even desired eggs can sit there for long periods of time when the AP is full.

And in that vein, would the MSA replace the BSA a breed might already have? If, say, a red egg were to sit there for a while (due to AP blockage, ect.), would the MSA replace Incubate?

Something to consider.

EDIT: this idea has my support, by the way. Very creative. smile.gif

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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 03:05 PM
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I would think an MSA would be an added little extra, not something that would replace a much more useful BSA. I know I'd be a bit more than upset if a Red I picked up had an MSA rather than Incubate.

I don't think that eggs technically sit in the biomes when the AP is blocking them. They aren't removed, but if they aren't visible, then they aren't available to get, so couldn't be considered sitting there. That would be why all the eggs that are waiting in the queue to go into a biome would not collect moss. Only eggs that are visible and available to steal.
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 03:10 PM
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I would think that the BSA would be unaffected, as the breed of the dragon hasn't changed. Just my two cents.

Painter, your moss looks really real. I like it best without the corner patch, myself. Have you tried it against a vine egg to see if it disappears though? That would be the one that matches closest in color, I think.
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Derranged @ Aug 26 2011, 03:37 PM)
Would the timer for an egg becoming mossy be affected by the times when the AP blocks the biomes? Or would it only count down when the AP is unblocked?

Because even desired eggs can sit there for long periods of time when the AP is full.

And in that vein, would the MSA replace the BSA a breed might already have? If, say, a red egg were to sit there for a while (due to AP blockage, ect.), would the MSA replace Incubate?

Something to consider.

EDIT: this idea has my support, by the way. Very creative. smile.gif

I also find this idea to be interesting. smile.gif

As for moss'd dragons with a BSA, what if it had both, but on the same timer? Seeing as the usual BSAs have a week-timer, it would share a timer with the BSA dragons that have a week-long timer, like Reds, Pinks, ect. Since the other BSA dragons' abilities are special, like bite or summon, and don't exactly effect a scroll like Earthquake would, it seems reasonable (to me).

Speaking of vamps, how would that work? Would a bitten egg retain the moss? Would there be a small percent chance that the moss goes away?

EDIT: ninja.gif'd twice o.o

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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 03:17 PM
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"Your dragon seems to dislike the moss growing on the egg and refuses to bite it."

Personally, I think that's what would happen. Your vampy wants blood, not a mouthful of fungi! xd.png
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 03:47 PM
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I decided to take a crack at spriting a moss overlay. This was my first sprite (Well, I did make a few diagonal lines on an egg with the artist's permission once xd.png), and I think it came out really well.

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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 03:50 PM
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I very much like this idea and think it is an awesome way to keep the cave moving.
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Fiona BlueFire @ Aug 26 2011, 04:10 PM)
Painter, your moss looks really real. I like it best without the corner patch, myself. Have you tried it against a vine egg to see if it disappears though? That would be the one that matches closest in color, I think.

Tried it, and... Oh man does it look awful against the vine, haha.

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It doesn't look too bad against plainer eggs (and it looks better against the pebble than I thought it would) but against the busier eggs, like the Stripe and Autumn... o3o It seems to lose a lot of it's shape.

I guess it's just too delicate. <3 I'm sure someone else will be able to make something more all-encompassing.

I still like the hanging moss idea though. That way it doesn't really mess with the water egg's puddle, or the daydream egg's cloud. Still, a patch (like PieMaster did!) as opposed to long curly stuffs, would probably be the easiest to see on all types of eggs.

But! I'm getting a little ahead of everything. The concept still needs some work, after all. :3
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Painter @ Aug 26 2011, 03:23 PM)
Tried it, and... Oh man does it look awful against the vine, haha.

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It doesn't look too bad against plainer eggs (and it looks better against the pebble than I thought it would) but against the busier eggs, like the Stripe and Autumn... o3o It seems to lose a lot of it's shape.

I guess it's just too delicate. <3 I'm sure someone else will be able to make something more all-encompassing.

I still like the hanging moss idea though. That way it doesn't really mess with the water egg's puddle, or the daydream egg's cloud. Still, a patch (like PieMaster did!) as opposed to long curly stuffs, would probably be the easiest to see on all types of eggs.

But! I'm getting a little ahead of everything. The concept still needs some work, after all. :3

While it still needs work, that's a beautiful bit of moss you've done there. Makes me want to make an ent-inspired deep forest dragon. Perhaps that'll be my next project when I feel like this idea has been smoothed out a bit more fully.

A lot of good ideas and good points of discussion have been brought up. Thank you all for helping this idea improve! I'll update the main post again sometime later today, especially RE: existing BSAs, cooldown time, and vamps. happy.gif
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I always thought moss was spongy and grew in clumps/patches |D

I think this is a fabulous idea. The green question mark idea made me squeal in excitement.
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Posted on Aug 26 2011, 05:10 PM
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Hi there. I'm loving this whole concept. I've also voted for other in the poll.

I made a sample overlay, and took my inspiration from Reindeer Moss, which is actually a lichen.

So, here you go.


Overlay with color bar.

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Overlay on a white egg.

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QUOTE (Derranged @ Aug 26 2011, 03:37 PM)
Would the timer for an egg becoming mossy be affected by the times when the AP blocks the biomes? Or would it only count down when the AP is unblocked?

Because even desired eggs can sit there for long periods of time when the AP is full.

Who cares? All this does is add to an egg's desirability. Can't hurt anything to have a few desirable eggs with moss.

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QUOTE (~!~ @ Aug 26 2011, 08:09 PM)
Who cares?  All this does is add to an egg's desirability.  Can't hurt anything to have a few desirable eggs with moss.

Well so-ree.

Edit: I asked because if it turns out that they do turn mossy while sitting in the biomes while they're blocked and a dragon can't have a BSA and an MSA at the same time, I don't want to be picking up a red that can't incubate, or a pink that can't influence, or a trio that can't summon.

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