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2012-09-18 - Minor Updates, Descriptions, Conditions, Subscriptions

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Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:07 PM

VP of Gentlemanliness

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Description Length Bars
user posted image

A bar has been added to the describe page. This bar will show you how many characters are left until you hit the limit (there's also a number to see the exact amount).

Terms and Conditions Update
The site terms have been updated. The changes are primarily clarity edits, with some sections being merged or rearranged to be easier to understand. One functional change is the requirement that all ToS changes be announced on the forums. The new terms are effective immediately; the full text of the agreement (with changes highlighted) is below:

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By creating an account on this site, you agree to the following terms:

Availability
While the site will be available as much as possible, Dragon Cave's availability cannot be guaranteed, and Dragon Cave ~~will~~ can not be held liable for consequences of any outages that may occur.
Inactivity
If you are not active on the site, your dragons will not be taken away. However, dead dragons will be removed several weeks after death ~~if they have not received any views for a set period~~. In addition, dragons may have their names removed after several weeks of inactivity in order to free up names for active users. ~~In addition, users that have no dragons may have their accounts disabled after 30 days of inactivity.~~
Multiple Accounts
By signing up, you agree that you will only create one (1) account. You also agree that you will not falsify information when creating accounts for any reason.
Privacy
We agree that we will not share any of the information associated with your account such as your username, password, IP address, and e-mail address, with any third party for any reason without your prior consent, unless required by law.
Dragon Cave collects and stores the following information from users:

Username
Password (stored in encrypted form)
E-Mail Address
IP Address

This information will never be shared with any third party for any reason without your prior consent, unless required by law.
In addition, browser statistics (such as screen size, browser version) and browsing habits may be collected by Google Analytics. This information is stored anonymously and will not be shared with any third party for any reason without your prior consent, unless required by law.
In order to display targeted advertising, Google may collect information about your browsing habits. If you wish to opt-out or change your Google AdSense preferences, click here.
Usage
Any usage of the site that is not in accordance with the rules of other sites that images are posted on is prohibited. You agree that you will not use ~~the site~~ Dragon Cave images in a way that violates the rules of any other site.
Art Usage
All art and text used on the site is used with the permission of the artist(s) that created it. If you wish to use this art for any purpose, please contact those artists.
Interactions with other users
All interactions with other users must be willful. Bothering other users to return abandoned eggs or posting the eggs, hatchlings, or adult dragons without a user's permission are prohibited.
Cheating
You agree that you will not attempt to "cheat" or bypass any site restrictions in any way. Any attempts to force users to click your eggs, hatchlings, or dragons without their consent, as well as abuse of any bugs or glitches in the site's code are prohibited and considered "cheating."
You agree that you will not attempt to "cheat" or bypass any site restrictions in any way. Cheating includes, but is not limited to:

Attempts to force or trick users to click your eggs, hatchlings, or dragons without their consent
Abuse of any bugs or glitches in the site's code.
Using browser addons, scripts, or other tools that modify pages on the Dragon Cave site in order to give users of said addons an advantage over other users.

"Buying" Eggs/Hatchlings/Dragons
There are no official means through which eggs, hatchlings, or dragons can be bought, whether from the site or from other users. Exchanging any sort of currency, real or virtual, for eggs, hatchlings, or dragons is expressly forbidden.
Cheese
You agree that if you accept this agreement without actually reading it, you may be pelted with moldy cheese at any moment.†
Page Modification
Using browser addons, scripts, or other tools that modify pages on the Dragon Cave site in order to give users of said addons an advantage over other users is forbidden.
Reverse Engineering
Users of the site agree not to reverse engineer or otherwise attempt to derive any processes or formulas used by the site's internal calculations., you can see the differences below
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Changes
The terms of this agreement may be modified at any time ~~without prior or subsequent warning~~. All changes will be announced via the Dragon Cave Forum. Users will not be individually notified.

~~†You will not actually be pelted with moldy cheese. Or will you?~~

Advertisement Removal Subscriptions - http://dragcave.net/account/adfree
This new feature, met mostly with positive responses when suggested on the forums, is now available from your account page. From the new page, you can purchase advertisement removal in one month (or one year) increments. For convenience, there are also subscriptions that renew automatically every month.

The reasoning behind this addition is that DC is my sole source of income, and I'd like for it to become my full time job, allowing me to put significantly more time into the site. Ad subscriptions do not have a functional effect on gameplay (I have done extensive testing on the timing of page loads; ads add to the overall download time but not the time necessary for a browser to display a biome or the abandoned eggs section), which I considered to be a high priority when it comes to monetizing DC (you all have made it very clear that you don't want "paid perks")

For those who can't afford a subscription, that's fine. Nothing will change for you, and as mentioned earlier, those who have money aren't getting any sort of advantage over you.

rebelgoddess19	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:10 PM
Owner of the Curled Alt & Zombie Army Group: Members Posts: 3,300 Member No.: 7,275 Joined: 16-July 08	Thanks for letting us know! I hope the advertisement removal goes well!

Kirjava-Kitsune	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:11 PM
The way to my heart is paved with CB embers Group: Members Posts: 2,591 Member No.: 46,628 Joined: 25-August 09	Do like the Description Length Bars!

SoulFang	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:13 PM
Level 7 Group: Members Posts: 816 Member No.: 68,262 Joined: 21-November 10	Wow, first page for once! Thanks for letting us know TJ! I love the addition of ad-removal.

ozikono	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:14 PM
Level 2 Group: Members Posts: 43 Member No.: 42,856 Joined: 28-June 09	"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" But nevermind, it's still good. :-)

PieMaster	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:16 PM
Now the stars are black and cold... There is no way to go on! Group: Members Posts: 3,822 Member No.: 64,985 Joined: 29-August 10	Yay, thanks for letting us know, TJ! And look, page 1.

macosten	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:16 PM
Level 2 Group: Members Posts: 96 Member No.: 54,781 Joined: 29-January 10	Nice, a more official ToS.

olympe

Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:23 PM

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Took me a while to find the Ad Removal Subscriptions. I'll start next month, definitely.

Hmmm, reading through the subscription policies, I wonder...

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In the event of a chargeback on a transaction (effectively claiming that you did not receive what you paid for) will result in an immediate and permament account ban[...]

Does account ban mean a burnt scroll, or that the account in question is banned from subscribe to Ad Removal?

This post has been edited by olympe on Sep 18 2012, 01:23 PM

Marie19R	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:24 PM
This says something else when you aren't looking Group: Members Posts: 2,662 Member No.: 12,458 Joined: 1-September 08	Yaaaayyy the ad-thing went through! I'm so glad. I think it's such a great idea. I wish the moldy cheese thing was still in the ToS though. That was funny.

Ferus	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:25 PM
Level 4 Group: Members Posts: 308 Member No.: 116,055 Joined: 19-August 11	Very nice. c: Even though I don't need it I might get ad-free just to support the site eventually.

rubyshoes	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:25 PM
"I hate computers and refuse to be bullied by them." - Group: Site Discussion Moderators Posts: 40,915 Member No.: 42,061 Joined: 15-June 09	Thanks for the info and for the changes, TJ.

Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:31 PM

VP of Gentlemanliness

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QUOTE (olympe @ Sep 18 2012, 03:23 PM)

Took me a while to find the Ad Removal Subscriptions. I'll start next month, definitely.

Hmmm, reading through the subscription policies, I wonder...

Does account ban mean a burnt scroll, or that the account in question is banned from subscribe to Ad Removal?

If you call your credit card company and tell them you didn't receive anything even though you did (which is a fairly common way for people to try to scam sites that "sell" online goods), your account will be banned from the site.

Shanthaia	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:31 PM
Level 8 Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Member No.: 21,179 Joined: 10-November 08	Thank you TJ! I just wonder if there is going to be any other way than paypal to subscribe/pay for the new service.

Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE (Shanthaia @ Sep 18 2012, 03:31 PM)

Thank you TJ!

I just wonder if there is going to be any other way than paypal to subscribe/pay for the new service.

You don't need a paypal account to buy a subscription, only a debit/credit card.

Is there some other service for accepting payments that you'd like to see implemented in addition to Paypal?

glamoursea2	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:39 PM
hey there Group: Members Posts: 2,520 Member No.: 55,920 Joined: 18-February 10	How helpful, a character counter! Thanks, TJ!

Shanthaia

Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE (TJ09 @ Sep 18 2012, 08:33 PM)

You don't need a paypal account to buy a subscription, only a debit/credit card.

Is there some other service for accepting payments that you'd like to see implemented in addition to Paypal?

Thank you so much for answering my question!

As I see the page set up, the payment even with credit card will go over paypal, but maybe I am misunderstanding. What I would like to avoid is useing paypal as variouse consumer protection organisations in my area strongly advise to not use paypal for security reasons.
However a friend of mine just advised prepaide visa gift cards to avoid giving them my data - so I will look into that.
I am affraid I have not looked much into what alternative payment possibities there are for an internet page to do money transfers with, so I am not going to be much help just now.

Catlover74	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:42 PM
Level 8 Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Member No.: 82,998 Joined: 17-July 11	Thanks for the update, TJ. Derp. This post has been edited by Catlover74 on Sep 18 2012, 01:44 PM

Mayuhito	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:47 PM
Level 4 Group: Members Posts: 304 Member No.: 70,931 Joined: 18-January 11	Thanks for the update TJ.

CDM	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 01:53 PM
Always watching, even when you think I'm not Group: Members Posts: 2,048 Member No.: 25,580 Joined: 24-December 08	A quick question. Is AdBlock through Firefox/Waterfox considered cheating as defined by the ToS? I only use it because of getting two viruses almost back to back, back when I tried to never use AdBlock. And I know that it has nothing to do with DC, it's actually a Google problem, but I don't like to take chances even though I want to contribute financially. At the same time, I don't want to be considered a cheater Once I can afford it, I will definitely buy the No-Ad subscription thingie. I love the idea, and it's so cheap!

Orlageddon	Posted: Sep 18 2012, 02:05 PM
Level 8 Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Member No.: 66,449 Joined: 11-October 10	I just noticed the character counter. That's something I've wanted for a long time, thank you, TJ!

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