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Because the principle is the same-someone else controlling a woman's body against her will. That's heinous, no matter what.
That's what pro-choice people are against. The willful control of a person's body, the neglect of it to see her as a person, but rather as a tool to do whatever the other person wants.
In essence I don't see this as any different from being forced to carry to term, because both are violence against her body.
And god if he's afraid of paying child support than he's a *bag, isn't he?

Look at this. I don’t see what’s so special about where Noble would draw it, and technically she has said that she doesn't think it's halachiacally okay to kill it in the womb at 24 weeks.

“Soon after birth, glial cells increase dramatically in size and number, and the pace of myelination continues its prenatal trajectory. Myelination proceeds rapidly during the first year of life before continuing at a slower but steady pace thereafter”

“The early postnatal period represents a time of dramatic change in brain structure and function. The brain grows to about 70% of its adult size by 1 year of age and to about 80% of adult size by age 2 years (Dekaban, 1978; Knickmeyer et al, 2008).”

“GA week 34 marks entry into the peak period of synaptogenesis, during which almost 40 000 new synapses are formed every second, a process that continues well into early postnatal life.”

You could say that about all stealing.

What about laxatives?

Why should he pay for a baby he never wanted from the start?

Wow pregnancy is totally the same as pooping. That's a totally correct and accurate logic. You do know how pregnancy works, don't you? Do you also understand that stealing is outlawed?

Maybe he should have used protection?

What on EARTH do laxatives have to do with it - unless you refer to someone forcefeeding them to an unwilling person ?

Because he was equally responsible for the fact that it is going to be born. Just because babies grow inside women does not mean men can get away with having sex and then saying "nothing to do with me, guv" when the inevitable happens. I realise far, far too many men think everything is the woman's responsibility. They are very wrong.

MEN - if you don't want to pay child support - don't have sex. Simples.
You haz the fun, you payz your duez.

ETA I see she wasn't even going to ASK him for support and said she'd go it alone. So even that doesn't hold up.

This post has been edited by fuzzbucket on May 18 2013, 04:10 AM

At six weeks, losing the little lentil bean would have been like a heavy period. Worse than a laxative, yes. But not the same as carrying for roughly nine months and getting an unwanted child.

What? If I steal a pencil at a university store, it's not as bad as stealing someone's car.

You just don't get it, do you. She wanted to have the baby. It would never have been an unwanted child.

She said she would care for it alone. He just wanted to control her.

He had NO RIGHT. And actually - even at 6 weeks a miscarriage CAN kill (bleeding out.)

And yes, MORALLY, stealing a pencil is just as bad as stealing a car. Morals are not related to the magnitude of the object. Stealing is stealing. Someone needs to have a word with your parents....

I meant in comparison to forcing someone to carry for roughly 9 months. Did you see what the argument was about?

Okay, this says it all.

This post has been edited by Alpha1 on May 18 2013, 05:13 AM

Yes - but people were also still citing the covert forced abortion that nasty boy did. No-one has the right to force a woman to do either one - carry or abort.

And early miscarriages can lead to bleeding out; they aren't to be taken as lightly as some suggest (the so-called morning after pill gets past all this, mind. The egg has not implanted so the bleeding risk isn't there.) When my daughter was miscarrying (spontaneously at 8 weeks) she was told she MUST have someone in the house with her at all times until it was over, so they could call her an ambulance if the bleeding was out of control.

As to stealing a car etc - well, the stealing is the same issue whatever the size of the thing stolen.

Where stealing a car would be morally worse than a pencil is the OTHER crimes you'd have committed at the same time: invasion of privacy, the personal hurt you'd have done to the owner, depriving them of their means of transport - stuff like that. But they aren't the actual theft.

Good catch. I missed that.