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> Cave: Put new eggs where the last was taken
olympe
Posted: Sep 12 2012, 08:08 AM
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After once again taking a common to make room for a new egg, seeing a rare pop up just there and not getting it - twice! - I had another idea.

We often get the situation that there are three blockers in a biome, often three blockers with the same description. If one player takes an egg, the new egg will turn up in the rightmost spot, where everybody has their mouse pointers hovering.

Why not put the new egg where the last was taken? So, if I took the leftmost egg, the new egg would turn up on the left spot.

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- Would give the person who takes a blocker a slight (!) advantage over other players for grabbing the next egg because they know where the new egg will turn up. Might lead to people grabbing more blockers.

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- Fast clickers might not like this?
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 08:13 AM
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I'd like to see them come up in random spots, myself. It does annoy me that they (almost) always come up as the third.
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 04:32 PM
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It would be quite chaotic. I am unbiased on this.
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 04:42 PM
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IF mossy eggs has any chance I'd prefer it to stay how it is since it would allow people to take eggs but still have two going towards moss growth, otherwise I'm neutral.
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Dragonshadows
Posted: Sep 12 2012, 04:43 PM
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I like this idea. A lot. I've been trying to get that CB Silver oh so many times but of course it's already in the third slot and everyone on the page clicks on it at once
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I EXTREMELY support this idea.
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TwilitProphet
Posted: Sep 12 2012, 04:43 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand it would make it less easy for those with fast computers to hover over the rightmost egg and snipe the slot when a rare egg pops up.

At the same time it would hinder my ability to get new release eggs or heck, even rarer to obtain eggs after the release. Even when I used the strategy I still barely managed to get the Blusangs I have! That was after clicking at least 200 eggs, and if it weren't for the fact that the new egg almost always ends up in that spot, I'd still be praying to somehow come across a gold dragon.
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 04:43 PM
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I like it the way it is. My reflexes are horrible, it's hard enough to catch an egg when my cursor's already right on top of it. If I had to jump around to catch eggs, I'd never catch them.
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Lythiaren
Posted: Sep 12 2012, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (codyne @ Sep 12 2012, 03:43 PM)
I like it the way it is. My reflexes are horrible, it's hard enough to catch an egg when my cursor's already right on top of it. If I had to jump around to catch eggs, I'd never catch them.

But that would also apply to everyone else hunting. It slows everyone down a little bit and also means the first and second blockers of the hour don't sit there for... the whole hour.

I support. It's already a viable strategy to click-F5-click (which gives you a perfectly legitimate edge just like turning off images or using your browser hotkeys) and this makes cave hunting less monotonous.
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 05:22 PM
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I think I support this idea. The number of times in the past I had cleared out blockers looking for specific eggs only to have them snatched the moment they appeared (mind you, I was doing the click-F5 thing) was frustrating.

I don't think it will affect new releases that much. If eggs show up where the last one was taken, and new releases always show up in the third slot at the new drop, you'll essentially be clicking on the third spot anyway, like usual. I actually don't understand how "slow" I am. I click on an egg the moment I see the page load and I still miss it. To this date, I still haven't caught a blusang in the cave myself. :\

Fast clickers shouldn't be too bothered either. If they were paying attention, it would be pretty obvious which slot was being targeted and they could easily readjust their ninja-scavenge-clicking.
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 06:29 PM
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I think this a great idea. (:
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (Lythiaren @ Sep 12 2012, 03:56 PM)
But that would also apply to everyone else hunting. It slows everyone down a little bit and also means the first and second blockers of the hour don't sit there for... the whole hour.

But it slows some people down more than others. There are plenty of people who can see an egg, zap their cursor right onto the egg and click. Sure, it takes them an instant longer than just clicking on the egg that drops under their cursor -- but my aim totally sucks. I end up clicking all around the egg for three or four clicks before I finally get it landed on egg. By then, it's long gone. So this change would be a *huge* disadvantage for me.
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Posted: Sep 12 2012, 09:19 PM
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IF mossy eggs are not implemented, then I do want to see this happen. biggrin.gif
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Cefie
Posted: Sep 12 2012, 09:35 PM
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Eh. In middle ground here.
I have tried that, and I have gotten the eggs I wanted each time.
And that was on average, poor slow internet.
However, it was rather late..

It might be more interesting to have eggs pop up in random places.
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god_matter
Posted: Sep 13 2012, 05:27 AM
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No support from me... I'm in the camp with slow reflexes and terrible aim; on top of that, I'm using a touchpad, so I get twice as many misclicks if I'm trying to watch multiple spots instead of just lurking in one (because it can register as a click when I'm just trying to move the cursor).
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Posted: Sep 13 2012, 06:44 AM
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Even if you're hovering over only one spot, you have a 33% chance that that's the spot where the new egg turns up. Also, you can play a bit of lotto, too. If there are two stones and one purple dragon in the desert, which one do you think gets taken?
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Posted: Sep 13 2012, 09:18 AM
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Olympe, are you responding to me? If so:

It still leaves me with less chance of getting an egg than I have now, between this suggestion and the issues I mentioned before. Why would I want to reduce my chance of being in the right spot at all, especially like thist? It kind of reminds me of the AP (which I often don't go to unless I'm just leisurely picking commons up to peek at lineages / reduce their time before throwing them back later) but with word-recognition and a five-hour penalty. :\ Under the current system, I at least know I have a decent chance; I can think of exactly one time I've ever gotten a nice non-blocker egg from the cave without having been hovering and at the ready the moment it showed up, and that's with only having to worry about my reflexes and connection.

I'm aware I'm likely in the minority with this, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the suggestion. :\
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codyne
Posted: Sep 13 2012, 11:12 AM
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Same here. I have no desire to reduce my already low chances of getting an egg from the cave by 2/3.

If the point of this is to make it easier to grab the rare that shows up under the cave-blocker you just grabbed to keep the cave moving, why not just grab the blocker on the right? Seems you already have a perfectly good way of putting yourself in position to catch the next egg, without changing the way the cave works.

This is really a fundamental change to the skill set required to catch eggs in the cave. Right now, it's "Refresh - Recognize egg - Click." It would become "Refresh - Recognize egg and location - Move cursor - Click," which is what we have now in the AP and, like god_matter, I have a much harder time in the AP and rarely catch anything unless something just happens to drop right under my cursor.

I really don't see any good reason to make such a change. It would advantage those who are fast and accurate and already really good cave catchers, and disadvantage those who are inaccurate and slow and already have a hard enough time.
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Lythiaren
Posted: Sep 13 2012, 02:10 PM
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But this gives you control. If you don't want to worry about moving your cursor... don't move it? Trigger the egg change yourself. You get less competition when everyone's guessing and, as with the click-F5-click method, you have the edge in that you know exactly which egg will change and when, something that catches everyone else in the biome off-guard. Even people with fast reflexes will often overshoot their mark when they're excited.

If you don't want to keep the blocker you pick up then give it to someone else, bite, or drop it. That's the consequence of this style of play. I keep mine because with hatcheries, it's less work for me to just drop them into the clicksites along with everything else I pick up.

This post has been edited by Lythiaren on Sep 13 2012, 02:15 PM
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Posted: Sep 13 2012, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (Lythiaren @ Sep 13 2012, 04:10 PM)
But this gives you control. If you don't want to worry about moving your cursor... don't move it? Trigger the egg change yourself. You get less competition when everyone's guessing and, as with the click-F5-click method, you have the edge in that you know exactly which egg will change and when, something that catches everyone else in the biome off-guard. Even people with fast reflexes will often overshoot their mark when they're excited.

If you don't want to keep the blocker you pick up then give it to someone else, bite, or drop it. That's the consequence of this style of play. I keep mine because with hatcheries, it's less work for me to just drop them into the clicksites along with everything else I pick up.

This is all well and good if you have more than one egg slot to fill, but I am often just looking for something nice to fill my last slot. So, when I am that sort of hunter, this suggestion would put me at a disadvantage.

But then I do sometimes hunt with several egg slots open and try to grab a blocker and hope there is a rare right behind it. I can see how this suggestion might be good in that situation.

So I guess I am really on the fence about this.
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Posted: Sep 13 2012, 05:00 PM
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I am strongly against this idea. This would cause chaos, IMO, especially in events such as holidays. It would be impossible to tell which eggs were taken when one breed is flooding a biome (Besides hovering the mouse over all the eggs, which will be taken by the time you do that), and hunting would be a hassle.
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