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So, they evidently are now,

Just for completion's sake: Not necessarily, TJ's post only points out that there was a bug / misfeature a longer time ago and he fixed it at some point. smile.gif Which is why I've never seen it as evidence either way.

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Just for completion's sake: Not necessarily, TJ's post only points out that there was a bug / misfeature a longer time ago and he fixed it at some point. smile.gif Which is why I've never seen it as evidence either way.

 

 

Thanks.

 

I wonder if there's any hope of TJ popping in to clear this question up?

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Bumping because there are a lot of suggestions here that can improve the release rather than breaking it.

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If this "middle of the day" crap is going to continue--and I'd rather see it go back to the midnight drops (with 24 hour pure drops,I like those)...

 

Have there be more eggs. There's so many more people, it's frustratingly hard to try to get any eggs. Not the good kind of "well that was frustrating but man it feels great I got one!"

 

The "it's a freakin' miracle I got ANYTHING, this sucks" kind of frustratin.

 

 

ASlso hate the whole "significantly less time to get Day 1 dated eggs" thing...

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This seems to BE a pure drop - so far at least - like last month. And there are a LOT of people saying how great it is at this time. If I were in the UK I'd be right there with them. We must all of us remember that there are people in ALL time zones playing.

 

Though I do take the point people are making elsewhere about Australians and others having most of their release time on Monday, and while they have to be at work... and the date thing.

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Midnight GMT-5/4 at least ensures that most if not all players actually have the release on a Sunday. I don't think the US playerbase is so important that you need to shift the release that far ahead for the rest of the world.

 

In any case, changes like that need at least 24 hours' warning. Half of the anger was the lack of warning given this time around.

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I like the middle of the day drops. And if not, a lot of people would have to catch them on a Monday, leading o a lot of frustration for those who have school on Mondays, like students.

 

But I digress, and Gull: TJ doesn't owe us anything. We should learn to adapt to a new system if he's interested in testing it, not shun it because it doesn't help the world. There is no "middle space" for timezones because the earth is round, and I enjoyed the suprise. We should be grateful TJ bothered at all.

 

A midnight release today would have put a lot of Americans at a disadvantage because of how these drops seem to go down -- the rest of the world would have had a headstart on us because we weren't even awake yet, if we're going by TJ's timezone, and with the eggs supposedly petering out around the five hour mark (something like that?) we would have had a small chance.

 

He just can't please everybody, and the amount of dissent that would have arisen had he shared his plan via 24-hour notice, it would have made the choice even more awkward. At least this way it's done and over with. And the other half of the anger was the unfairness of the drop, made by.. several parties. But it wasn't all of the anger, and that's an important distinction here. Plus it's getting easier each hour as hundreds of people lock themselves and leave the rest for the slower connection users.

 

**not sure if I got that right, my mind doesn't really like to explain things.

Edited by Ashes The Second

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I never get first day release dragons regardless of what time they're actually released and I have a brand new high powered computer with a really good internet connection. I actually prefer the time when the dragons were released randomly with no set date. It was SO much easier to grab one on the date or closer to the date they were released. I know it doesn't really matter WHEN someone gets an egg that is a permanent release but... I haven't gotten a CB Copper SINCE their release, despite several mentions that they weren't rare and it took me until March to get a Two-Headed Lindwurm, which is SEVEN months after it's release. And that's when I was a pretty active member of the site.

 

If it's a common egg, I really don't care if I get one as long as I can get one later. However, if it's a rare egg it REALLY does matter if you get one on the release date. Unfortunately, there's no way of telling if it's going to be rare or not.

 

I would love a 24/48 Solid Drop, but last time I suggested this, it got a outstanding NO. Which, I find surprising. But, I also suggested that first day releases don't count towards ratio. And that Bred and CB eggs should be separate ratio as well. But this all depends on how exactly the ratio are set up.

Edited by MysticTiger

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If it HAS to be a daytime drop--

 

Personally I would rather Saturday afternoon than Sunday-- we take lots of day trips on Sunday during the Summer

 

why not Saturday evening say 8pm EST/EDT

 

the amount of people on slowed my catching down by at least an extra hour

 

and I can see the daytime release being more difficult for many

 

 

 

( I wasn't actually aware that the time was an issue)

Edited by dragonpuck

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If it HAS to be a daytime drop--

 

Personally I would rather Saturday afternoon than Sunday-- we take lots of day trips on Sunday during the Summer

 

why not Saturday evening say 8pm EST/EDT

 

the amount of people on slowed my catching down by at least an extra hour

 

and I can see the daytime release being more difficult for many

 

 

 

( I wasn't actually aware that the time was an issue)

Personally I'd like that. Then again, I never minded the midnight drop. It was 11 PM for me so it wasn't THAT bad. I normally stay up rather late. The daytime drop was nice though! I had gotten up shortly after it started and managed to get eggs rather easily, even though I'm at my mom's where the internet is far from stellar.

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My biggest complaint about the delayed release? reading it early in the morning, when making ready to catch new eggs.

 

that aside, i do not have any problem with any release time, if it actually happens on weekends for everyone. It is highly unfair to schedule it so, that everyone east of russia has the release at sunday midnight or later.

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I was fine with the midnight drops (6 AM in my timezone) and while I am also fine with the 1 PM drop (7 PM in my timezone) and I had no problems to catch my drakies, I know that it frustrated a lot of people because they couldn't catch a single egg. :c Reading other's thoughts of the 1 PM release definitely makes me prefer the midnight one when not everyone is awake. It was hard enough to catch one to that time, now making it harder by releasing them to a time when most people are awake would probably just cause a lot of frustration what can take away all the fun.

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Is my computer just stupidly fast or something?

Just a little bit ago i got all seven eggs and it only took me going through 2 of the 5 minute drops.

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If this "middle of the day" crap is going to continue--and I'd rather see it go back to the midnight drops (with 24 hour pure drops,I like those)...

 

Have there be more eggs.  There's so many more people, it's frustratingly hard to try to get any eggs.  Not the good kind of "well that was frustrating but man it feels great I got one!"

 

The "it's a freakin' miracle I got ANYTHING, this sucks" kind of frustratin.

 

 

ASlso hate the whole "significantly less time to get Day 1 dated eggs" thing...

The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

 

EDIT: this isn't a new thing, by the way. been happening for a long time. Unless you thought I just sat there and picked numbers of eggs to drop every hour.

Edited by TJ09

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The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

I also noticed nothing drops in the other biomes to compensate for the mass amounts dropping in the Jungle and Coast smile.gif

 

I was complaining about the time drop before, but thank you TJ because i got over it quickly as soon as egg hunting started. Thank you.

 

I like that nothing else is dropping, easier to focus on what i need to get instead of being distracted by the 'possible' outcome of catching CB metals

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The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

I am glad that you said that, TJ, as it really seemed that more eggs were available during the drops to me, as I caught 3 on one of the 5 minute drops. I thought I was going crazy for a minute.

 

Thank you for releasing 2 beautiful new eggs for us. I can't wait to see the adults.

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The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

 

EDIT: this isn't a new thing, by the way. been happening for a long time. Unless you thought I just sat there and picked numbers of eggs to drop every hour.

Thanks for spelling that out - it's always kind of FELT like that but I assumed I was imagining it !

 

As to time - can we have 24 hours notice of the time, next time - whatever time it is ? A mate of mine in the UK, who has just moved house and has no internet yet, got up at 5 am and took her lappie to a local pub so she could catch the new eggs. When she found out she had done all that for nothing, she was - not happy.

Edited by fuzzbucket

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The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

 

EDIT: this isn't a new thing, by the way. been happening for a long time. Unless you thought I just sat there and picked numbers of eggs to drop every hour.

I didn't know that, pretty interesting! Thanks for telling us, TJ.

 

I do like the midnight releases better, though, since like others have said that means 24 hours to get release-date eggs, which I don't personally care about, but others do.

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I haven't seen any mixing myself, and the other biomes haven't opened up as far as I can tell. So it at least looks like it's a 24 hour drop?

 

e: ignore me, I just saw an alpine egg.

Edited by Guillotine

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The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

 

EDIT: this isn't a new thing, by the way. been happening for a long time. Unless you thought I just sat there and picked numbers of eggs to drop every hour.

Now that is an awesome hidden trivia fact. smile.gif Honestly, I don't really mind the drops being any set time. I have a rather random schedule, so I never know if I'll be here or not. Though I do know that I rarely caught anything at midnight whether I stayed up or not.

 

Today I missed the start and came home at 5ish to two full hours of "you expected to see some eggs..." but quickly caught several just a bit ago. (in fact I caught more than I need, so will have to decide what to do with the extras once off cool down....).

 

So, put me in the "happy either way" group. smile.gif Midnight or noon-ish. both work.

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Call me old fashioned, but if you really want something you have to work for it. TJ *always* has us in mind, because without us, this site wouldn't exist. He's not doing any of this to "inconvenience" us, or make it "harder" to grab eggs by dropping the new release at a different time. IMO, if you really wanted to get the new release eggs in the first few hours, you will! smile.gif

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A midnight release today would have put a lot of Americans at a disadvantage because of how these drops seem to go down -- the rest of the world would have had a headstart on us because we weren't even awake yet, if we're going by TJ's timezone, and with the eggs supposedly petering out around the five hour mark (something like that?) we would have had a small chance.

Actually, in my timezone, old release occurred at 6 am, which is a time when I am sleeping.

 

Now it happens at 6 pm (if I'm calculating correctly), so I'm very pleased with the change.

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The number of eggs already scales exponentially with the number of users online.

 

The two bits in italics make the egg generation generally in your favor--even if not everyone online is hunting for eggs, the site will generate more eggs, and it generates even more eggs to compensate for increased difficulty when there's a lot of people.

 

EDIT: this isn't a new thing, by the way. been happening for a long time. Unless you thought I just sat there and picked numbers of eggs to drop every hour.

Wow, that's actually a really nice feature I had no idea about. I like it, although it seems to not help me any (maybe I just am really bad at catching eggs quickly?). It makes complete sense yet I've not heard anyone mention it before. Unless, of course, everyone knew already and i'm just being dumb. I always thought there were a set amount of eggs that would drop due to ratio.

 

@moonsapphire19: I understand the site has some set difficultly to it, but I also completely understand the frustration of a lot of people. When I joined in 2008, it was really easy to catch dragons, even the new ones. The only ones we had to worry about were Silvers, Vampires (unobtainable at the time) and Golds. But, the amount of people multiplied, so did the traffic and the demand for eggs. That also skewed the "rarity" of eggs and the "value" of eggs in trade. Don't get me wrong, some of the new little changes to the inner-workings of the site are brilliant. But, I also just feel like there's something else that could be changed to accommodate more people (personally, i'd love to see 24 hour solid drops). Of course, with that, there still would be a group of people who would be angry and/or disappointed but there's really not much to do about that. There will ALWAYS be that "group" of people.

 

EDIT: Did finally manage to catch eggs with relative ease, even without my mouse plugged in. Seems if I wait quite a few more hours for everyone to get their fill, it's a lot easier. :3

Edited by MysticTiger

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I've only been playing DC for a few months, and this was only the second release I managed to get to, so I'm not sure my opinion should count very much as I havent been round as long. For me however, I found this one to be easier, and much preferred the time. While yes you have to try harder, in the long run, I feel more people will get eggs, since it is adjusted to the amount of people on, and more people will be on. Idk if I made much sense, but ya..

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@moonsaphirre: ...Except that's not how it works. At all. In any context. You can't make bad internet, slow clicking, lag, or real life obligations go away with the power of wishing, and you especially can't make the 300+ people clamoring for the same egg go away because you really want an egg within the first few hours. TJ can put it at any time he wants given proper warning, but unless there's a decently long (~12-24 hours?) drop without mixing there's going to be a lot of people locked out of eggs they may not be able to get after.

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